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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omega3000 on 13 February 2012, 14:09:35
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Can anyone recommend a decent paint scratch removal product , i have used Tcut and thats ok for fine scratches but it wont touch the deeper ones . Or is there another way other than using products like Tcut :-\
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Depends on the scratch but if they are deep(ish) but NOT through the lacquer then 2000 grit production wet and dry paper with a little washing liquid in the water will polish out scratches.
Once done compound and then polish .
Be very gentle though .
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Good advice. :y
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Depends on the scratch but if they are deep(ish) but NOT through the lacquer then 2000 grit production wet and dry paper with a little washing liquid in the water will polish out scratches.
Once done compound and then polish .
Be very gentle though .
One or two are quite deep but most i will be able to try and get out with your advice :y As for the deeper ones i really dont know how to tackle them .... :-\ what about those wax pencil things are they any good , my car is dark blue if that makes it any easier to hide the deep scratches :-\
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Show us some photos so we can see what we're trying to get rid of.... :y
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how old is the car ? if its 97 , I wont recommend using even 2000 grid on it as the laquer layer becomes too thin.. :-\
assuming the paint to be original..
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Does your finger nail go into the scratch? If so you won't get it out as it's too deep.
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Does your finger nail go into the scratch? If so you won't get it out as it's too deep.
Afraid it does del .... car is a 97 . The paint is very good condition , no laquer peeling or fading just these few scratches ...i will load pics up tomorrow so you can see :y
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Does your finger nail go into the scratch? If so you won't get it out as it's too deep.
Afraid it does del .... car is a 97 . The paint is very good condition , no laquer peeling or fading just these few scratches ...i will load pics up tomorrow so you can see :y
this kind of deep scratches reaching the paint level can not be sanded and erased.. I can recommend one technique that I used in the past, fold the 2000 grid (or 1500) and sand the scratch inside and corners lightly .. than cover the area with some paper band only leaving the scratch open.. and spray laquer (original laquer/hardener mixture) on it..
wait some days and then sand with 2000 and polish :y
ps: very light layer just to fill the scratch..
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Does your finger nail go into the scratch? If so you won't get it out as it's too deep.
Afraid it does del .... car is a 97 . The paint is very good condition , no laquer peeling or fading just these few scratches ...i will load pics up tomorrow so you can see :y
this kind of deep scratches reaching the paint level can not be sanded and erased.. I can recommend one technique that I used in the past, fold the 2000 grid (or 1500) and sand the scratch inside and corners lightly .. than cover the area with some paper band only leaving the scratch open.. and spray laquer (original laquer/hardener mixture) on it..
wait some days and then sand with 2000 and polish :y
ps: very light layer just to fill the scratch..
Ok Cem :y what if i sand as you say then use a touch up brush , wait till hard then sand flat ...say that because i know the touch up brushes can apply thicker paint but it would be easier than spray or should i avoid the touch up paint :-\
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Does your finger nail go into the scratch? If so you won't get it out as it's too deep.
Afraid it does del .... car is a 97 . The paint is very good condition , no laquer peeling or fading just these few scratches ...i will load pics up tomorrow so you can see :y
this kind of deep scratches reaching the paint level can not be sanded and erased.. I can recommend one technique that I used in the past, fold the 2000 grid (or 1500) and sand the scratch inside and corners lightly .. than cover the area with some paper band only leaving the scratch open.. and spray laquer (original laquer/hardener mixture) on it..
wait some days and then sand with 2000 and polish :y
ps: very light layer just to fill the scratch..
Ok Cem :y what if i sand as you say then use a touch up brush , wait till hard then sand flat ...say that because i know the touch up brushes can apply thicker paint but it would be easier than spray or should i avoid the touch up paint :-\
touch up paints are weak.. and dont stay long , unless you also use laquer on top of it.. but generally touch up by hand dont give impressive results.. but better than nothing and if you wet sand (lightly) and polish, may be adequate..
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honestly , there is no magic method for very deep scratches.. but they will be hardly visible after repair..
metallic colors are very senstive and for a perfect job, most of (or whole ) panel must be painted which is another trouble.. :-\
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I use this. Very good stuff. can be specified as fine, medium or harsh. Medium works best :y
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I have some options now so thanks :y Now pray for warm weather or use a hairdryer :y I would say looking at the deep scratches it really needs full panel respray but thats not cost effective as the paint job would exceed the price of the car , i will do my best :y
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I have some options now so thanks :y Now pray for warm weather or use a hairdryer :y I would say looking at the deep scratches it really needs full panel respray but thats not cost effective as the paint job would exceed the price of the car , i will do my best :y
painting the panel is a good solution but I guess color is different than the original now (fade) so preparing the exact color match will take time and will be costly..
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I use this. Very good stuff. can be specified as fine, medium or harsh. Medium works best :y
I seen some similar to that but it was £19 in the shop :o
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A very good friend of mine who does all of my bodywork, does this 'thing' called a smart touch up, basically what you do it, touch it in with paint, so it actually sits higher than the rest of the paint, when dry sand it down to the 'standard' level, polish it, then apply a tiny coat of lacquer and polish it up again. It's something along those methods, it doesn't make it totally invisible, but if you don't know it's there you won't spot it :y.
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A very good friend of mine who does all of my bodywork, does this 'thing' called a smart touch up, basically what you do it, touch it in with paint, so it actually sits higher than the rest of the paint, when dry sand it down to the 'standard' level, polish it, then apply a tiny coat of lacquer and polish it up again. It's something along those methods, it doesn't make it totally invisible, but if you don't know it's there you won't spot it :y.
Sounds good , similar to what i think ill try with the touch up brush . I think the worst one is on the front wing , ill take some pics when i do it Before/After :y
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A very good friend of mine who does all of my bodywork, does this 'thing' called a smart touch up, basically what you do it, touch it in with paint, so it actually sits higher than the rest of the paint, when dry sand it down to the 'standard' level, polish it, then apply a tiny coat of lacquer and polish it up again. It's something along those methods, it doesn't make it totally invisible, but if you don't know it's there you won't spot it :y.
Sounds good , similar to what i think ill try with the touch up brush . I think the worst one is on the front wing , ill take some pics when i do it Before/After :y
Let us know how you get on :y.
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Let us know how you get on .
Will do , hope i dont make a mess of it :-X
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Let us know how you get on .
Will do , hope i dont make a mess of it :-X
find a very tiny paint brush and do some practice on paper.. :y
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Let us know how you get on .
Will do , hope i dont make a mess of it :-X
find a very tiny paint brush and do some practice on paper.. :y
Good idea :y I will point out which was before and after in case you get confused ;D
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At our bodyshop we sometimes use the method it sounds like you're gnna use, touch up the scratch with paint then 2000 grit wet and we use a Machine polisher but T-cut with water and some elbow grease should do it! Best you'll prob get without painting. If you load a pic i can see if you might be able to paint it yourself. Where is it?
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At our bodyshop we sometimes use the method it sounds like you're gnna use, touch up the scratch with paint then 2000 grit wet and we use a Machine polisher but T-cut with water and some elbow grease should do it! Best you'll prob get without painting. If you load a pic i can see if you might be able to paint it yourself. Where is it?
On the front wing and a few lighter ones on the doors , bloody hard work with TCUT . I was doing one small light scratch and the TCUT didn't seem to cut through the laquer at all :-\ mind i was doing it by hand , i will load up the worst one so you can see what im up against :y
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At our bodyshop we sometimes use the method it sounds like you're gnna use, touch up the scratch with paint then 2000 grit wet and we use a Machine polisher but T-cut with water and some elbow grease should do it! Best you'll prob get without painting. If you load a pic i can see if you might be able to paint it yourself. Where is it?
On the front wing and a few lighter ones on the doors , bloody hard work with TCUT . I was doing one small light scratch and the TCUT didn't seem to cut through the laquer at all :-\ mind i was doing it by hand , i will load up the worst one so you can see what im up against :y
filling paint and laquer is easier than digging laquer ;D :y you can take it with 2000 grid also, but I'm not sure for your lacquer thickness so cant advice it. :-\
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This is the worst one ...best shot i could get cos of the shine back :-\
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0044.jpg)
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get some farecla G3 if you aint got a buffer its better than t.cut
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get some farecla G3 if you aint got a buffer its better than t.cut
Ok thanks , will see if i can order some :y
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This is the worst one ...best shot i could get cos of the shine back :-\
bad news.. too long,wide and deep (lower part).. not suitable for a newbie hand.. if you try polishing although the upper part
may give some reult , lower part requires deep work which you may end up with a dull paint without laquer..
mask the scratch area and let it sprayed by a professional..
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http://www.ehow.com/video_3378_fix-scratch-car.html (http://www.ehow.com/video_3378_fix-scratch-car.html)
++ and last step use laquer.. :y
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This is the worst one ...best shot i could get cos of the shine back :-\
bad news.. too long,wide and deep (lower part).. not suitable for a newbie hand.. if you try polishing although the upper part
may give some reult , lower part requires deep work which you may end up with a dull paint without laquer..
mask the scratch area and let it sprayed by a professional..
Ooh no can do that ...professional paint shop will cost too much and no doubt they will want to do the whole panel :D, ill have a go myself ....it has gone down to the base coat ::)
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http://www.ehow.com/video_3378_fix-scratch-car.html (http://www.ehow.com/video_3378_fix-scratch-car.html)
++ and last step use laquer.. :y
;D
I was waiting for the last bit :y
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This is the worst one ...best shot i could get cos of the shine back :-\
bad news.. too long,wide and deep (lower part).. not suitable for a newbie hand.. if you try polishing although the upper part
may give some reult , lower part requires deep work which you may end up with a dull paint without laquer..
mask the scratch area and let it sprayed by a professional..
Ooh no can do that ...professional paint shop will cost too much and no doubt they will want to do the whole panel :D , ill have a go myself ....it has gone down to the base coat ::)
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no way other than filling with paint and laquer I'm afraid..
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This is the worst one ...best shot i could get cos of the shine back :-\
bad news.. too long,wide and deep (lower part).. not suitable for a newbie hand.. if you try polishing although the upper part
may give some reult , lower part requires deep work which you may end up with a dull paint without laquer..
mask the scratch area and let it sprayed by a professional..
Ooh no can do that ...professional paint shop will cost too much and no doubt they will want to do the whole panel :D , ill have a go myself ....it has gone down to the base coat ::)
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no way other than filling with paint and laquer I'm afraid..
Looking at the handy video im going to try that , should come out ok :y
Many thanks to all who have helped :y :y :y
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This is the worst one ...best shot i could get cos of the shine back :-\
bad news.. too long,wide and deep (lower part).. not suitable for a newbie hand.. if you try polishing although the upper part
may give some reult , lower part requires deep work which you may end up with a dull paint without laquer..
mask the scratch area and let it sprayed by a professional..
Ooh no can do that ...professional paint shop will cost too much and no doubt they will want to do the whole panel :D , ill have a go myself ....it has gone down to the base coat ::)
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no way other than filling with paint and laquer I'm afraid..
Looking at the handy video im going to try that , should come out ok :y
good luck :y