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Please play nicely.  No one wants to listen/read a keyboard warriors rants....

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 71 
 on: 11 November 2025, 20:41:30 
Started by Marks DTM Calib - Last post by LC0112G
Sorry - that first sentence should have been....

"#3 is the tail engine? Anything departing #1 with enough energy to penetrate the fuselage is going to miss the tail engine."

Point is, I can't find any instances of an engine on one wing causing damage to an engine on t'other wing. Yes there have been instances (on both B-707's and B-747's) where one engine has failed and knocked the other one on the same wing off, but never on the opposite wing.

 72 
 on: 11 November 2025, 20:40:32 
Started by STEMO - Last post by Migv6 le Frog Fan
Seems like a sensible move.

 73 
 on: 11 November 2025, 19:37:17 
Started by STEMO - Last post by STEMO
Whys that then ?

Reform pulls out of BBC documentary over bias scandal

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/17450f047279776e

 74 
 on: 11 November 2025, 19:29:01 
Started by STEMO - Last post by Migv6 le Frog Fan
Whys that then ?

 75 
 on: 11 November 2025, 19:07:05 
Started by Marks DTM Calib - Last post by LC0112G
There seems to be talk that Engine 3 filmed out just after nose came up.  Could debris from Number 1 have penetrated the fuselage, and cargo in that area, and out again to damage No 3?

#3 is the tail engine. Anything departing #1 with enough energy to penetrate the fuselage is going to miss the tail engine.

However, if the whole #1 detaches from the wing then it doesn't just fall to the ground like a dumb bomb. At the moment of departure it's sucking in huge mounts of air, and thrusting out tens of thousands of pounds of thrust. On detaching it actually accelerates forwards of the plane for while before drag slows it down, and then the plane catches it up and 'crashes' into it. Also, any sections of the wing that are damaged during the detachment, (or by things like fan blades puncturing the wing), can/do get sucked upwards and over the wing. The fan blades themselves will probably miss the tail engine, but secondary damage canget sucked into the tail engine.

I don't think there has ever been an incident of an engine failure on one wing causing damage to an engine on the other wing. If that could happen, then the safety case for virtually all twin engined aircraft goes to pot. 

 76 
 on: 11 November 2025, 18:37:19 
Started by Marks DTM Calib - Last post by TheBoy
There seems to be talk that Engine 3 filmed out just after nose came up.  Could debris from Number 1 have penetrated the fuselage, and cargo in that area, and out again to damage No 3?

 77 
 on: 11 November 2025, 18:32:43 
Started by Terbs - Last post by TheBoy
Can't recall if they are a 1.2W or 2W capes type.  Reuse old bulb holder.

 78 
 on: 11 November 2025, 17:38:21 
Started by STEMO - Last post by Field Marshal Dr. Opti
The company that made the episode of Panorama that caused all the trouble ( October films) is currently producing a documentary on the Reform party.
Safe to assume it will be a complete hatchet job.  ::)

Not any more.

 79 
 on: 11 November 2025, 16:53:32 
Started by STEMO - Last post by Sir Tigger KC
One Billion. :)

Not sure if that is $ or £.

Is that an American billion or a British billion?  ???

As to the currency, well it won't make much difference before long....  :-\   ::)
Us and UK billions are the same

Us as in the 'Royal We'?   ;D

You are of course correct that an American billion is the same as a British billion, but it wasn't always the case.

A British billion was a million million and an American billion was a thousand million. Britain started using the American version in the 1970's I believe.  ???

I'm far too young to remember this of course. :)
I thought it was still a million million here. :-[ Obviously didn't get the memo.  :D

Sorry to hear that all your billions aren't worth as much as you thought Ron.  :(                                                                 ;D

 80 
 on: 11 November 2025, 13:00:31 
Started by Marks DTM Calib - Last post by Doctor Gollum
They're currently all grounded pending the investigation findings.

Much of the UPS and Fed Ex fleets are already in storage, so slightly moot.

The TriStar was a much better aircraft than the DC10/MD11. Its undoing was because it crashed first.

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