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Nickbat

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New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« on: 07 September 2012, 12:22:38 »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2199311/Millions-modified-classic-cars-banned-roads-meddling-European-Union-try-shake-MOT-rules.html#ixzz25m7cBaNJ

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Nigel Farage is the only political leader mentioning this, tweeting his opposition to the proposal, but worried that, given the way the EU works, this may well end up as regulation.

Vote UKIP.
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #1 on: 07 September 2012, 12:41:08 »

Daily Mail shite as usual, the EU tried 2 year MOTs this is going same way.

They would implement it, but only if it's zero cost. Which it won't be :)
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #2 on: 07 September 2012, 12:46:00 »

At a cost of £50 million per day they have to be seen to be doing something >:( >:(.

Just think what USEFUL things that this country could do with amout of cash PER DAY!!

Freak the EU >:( >:(

REFERENDUM NOW!!! :y
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #3 on: 07 September 2012, 12:52:41 »

At a cost of £50 million per day they have to be seen to be doing something >:( >:(.

Just think what USEFUL things that this country could do with amout of cash PER DAY!!
Freak the EU >:( >:(

REFERENDUM NOW!!! :y

Going on the performance of the last 10 years, bugger all!
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #4 on: 07 September 2012, 12:52:58 »

Daily Mail shite as usual, the EU tried 2 year MOTs this is going same way.

They would implement it, but only if it's zero cost. Which it won't be :)

OK, try the Telegraph instead, then.  ;)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9526693/Motorists-face-EU-ban-for-modifying-cars.html
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #5 on: 07 September 2012, 12:54:28 »

At a cost of £50 million per day they have to be seen to be doing something >:( >:(.

Just think what USEFUL things that this country could do with amout of cash PER DAY!!
Freak the EU >:( >:(

REFERENDUM NOW!!! :y

Going on the performance of the last 10 years, bugger all!

True  ;D ;D
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #6 on: 07 September 2012, 14:09:55 »

More information from the Association of Car Enthusiasts here, who are actively campaigning against it (though it's at EU proposal stage right now):
http://www.the-ace.org.uk/armageddon/

Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs: http://fbhvc.co.uk/2012/08/23/eu-roadworthiness-testing/

DFT response here: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=26260

You can be pretty sure that bodies within the DfT and VOSA will be campaigning against this, too.
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #7 on: 07 September 2012, 14:25:30 »

Tunnie - if theres one thing the EU dont mind doing its spending money.They spend eye watering amounts of it on the most ludicrous things imaginable every day of every week. They really dont have any connection at all with the reality of planet earth over in Brussells. You may naively and logically question where they would find the money in the current climate. They will simply raise it from yet more taxes on member states.Even now,they see no reason at all not to do so. ;)
On a similar note,MP,s in westminster have the gravy train back up to full speed again. Their expenses last year rose by 25%  :o :o >:( >:( >:( bringing them back to almost the level they were at before they were exposed as a bunch of common thieves in 2009.
Come back Guy Fawkes,all is forgiven.
http://money.aol.co.uk/2012/09/07/mps-expenses-scandal-costs-up-25-in-a-year/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl4%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D126076

Gordon Brown claimed £127,197 in expenses including £13,458 for travel despite the fact he has only spoken three times in the commons since he had his fingernails prised from his desk at number 10.

And Ca Moron says were all in it together. ::)
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #8 on: 07 September 2012, 14:30:57 »

The sooner we accept that the EU want us all to be uniform drones following the rules the better.

All this talk of protest won't do any good. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #9 on: 07 September 2012, 21:18:38 »

For fear of repeating something that has been said before ......

"Meddling Brussels bureaucrats" as the sh1ite mail puts it, are MEPs - with the 4th largest number being British. Number of MEPs is based on population of country. Not saying that it's right - money spent etc, but this Brussels thing that everybody goes on about - in other countries too - is just bollacks. Every EU country has representives there.

Concerning the point made, there have been other ideas within the motoring industry branded around in past, but when strongly opposed to in an organised fashion such as petitions and letters sent from motoring organisations and publications / clubs stating a case against the idea, this has been taken into account and the "new law" never passed.

Perhaps the motoring enthusiats / publications / clubs / organisations should all react to the news in a constructive way to fight against it - no politician will in their right mind knowingly go out of their way to piss off millions of people in one go. Yes, politicians do piss millions of people off, but i'd imagine not when there are petitions with hundreds and hundreds of thousands of signatures opposing an idea. They want to keep their jobs.
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #10 on: 07 September 2012, 22:20:48 »

They tried to do the same a few years a go with motorbikes.

MAG and the BMF joined forces with other European bike groups and did a slow ride around Brussels for two days causing total grid lock. The legislation was quietly dropped.

Where will this leave LPG installations?
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #11 on: 07 September 2012, 22:42:39 »

For fear of repeating something that has been said before ......

"Meddling Brussels bureaucrats" as the sh1ite mail puts it, are MEPs - with the 4th largest number being British. Number of MEPs is based on population of country. Not saying that it's right - money spent etc, but this Brussels thing that everybody goes on about - in other countries too - is just bollacks. Every EU country has representives there.

Concerning the point made, there have been other ideas within the motoring industry branded around in past, but when strongly opposed to in an organised fashion such as petitions and letters sent from motoring organisations and publications / clubs stating a case against the idea, this has been taken into account and the "new law" never passed.

Perhaps the motoring enthusiats / publications / clubs / organisations should all react to the news in a constructive way to fight against it - no politician will in their right mind knowingly go out of their way to piss off millions of people in one go. Yes, politicians do piss millions of people off, but i'd imagine not when there are petitions with hundreds and hundreds of thousands of signatures opposing an idea. They want to keep their jobs.

Yes, but we only have 72 MEPs out of a total of 736, and of those only 11 are UKIP. Of the rest, there is a mixture of Greens (would vote in favour), LibDems (Ditto), plus Labout, Tory and a few independents (none of whom can be relied upon to rebel!).

Besides which, this is not just an airy-fairy thought, it is a published draft proposal: http://ec.europa.eu/transport/doc/roadworthiness-package/com%282012%29380.pdf

Given the way the EU operates, it doesn't necessarily matter how many petitions are signed, it could still end up as law.  >:(
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Re: New EU proposals: could directly affect us all
« Reply #12 on: 08 September 2012, 05:42:26 »

When is there ever NOT a proposal that could affect us all. ?

No news here, well covered in car chat.

It's just a proposal, just like leg protectors on bikes 20 years ago, it won't happen.
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