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Re: Why Are People Not?
« Reply #15 on: 09 June 2015, 21:40:58 »


 :-\ The V6, especially the 3.0 isn't really what I'd call smooth, especially not when you nail it.  And the economy is really quite poor when measured against a BMW 4.4 V8 of the same era that can do 30mpg.  And it really isn't fast by modern standards at all. It would easily get battered by something as mundane as a C220 CDI from a standing start.  Gearing doesn't suit (slightly illegal) cruising speeds either.

Not to say I don't like it as an engine I must stress.

A V6 by pure definition is smooth, no exception with the X25XE, Y26SE, X30XE, Y32SE.  A properly running Vx V6 is like silk.

Same era V8 BMW stands no chance in the 'economy' department.  My e39 535i would struggle to get above mid teens, and the 339 is lighter than the Omega by a fair amount.... step up to the 7 series, and it's laughable. Ask me how I know!

Comparing a 20 year old car to a modern diesel is like comparing a Mother to her Daughter - Miles tend to wear out Humans, much like Cars.  Ask Lord Opti how he knows.

Anyway - On that last point, a standard B234/5R with TD04 (all standard) in an Omega would make a modern 530D shit itself..... after a remap, and it's bye byye!
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Re: Why Are People Not?
« Reply #16 on: 09 June 2015, 21:49:28 »



Any number of reasons:
first, you're advocating an engine swap when there are people who resist buying anything other than Vx oil and filters?

second, the V6 Omega is a well judged combination; a 3.0l has enough power to spare so  that loading it heavily doesn't make much difference to the performance, plus it's quiet, smooth and (relatively) economical

third, modern engine swaps are a pain to do compared to heaving a small-block into a mk2 Granada(I've a mate who used to do those in a day)

I doubt there are that many of us here who are actually interested in that sort of hot-rodding

First:  What's that got to do with anything?  I've asked on a forum a question - Just because someone will only ever use Vx Filters, why wouldn't they use another engine which uses the very same Vx filters?  :)

Second:  Nope, except for the smoothness - which in part is throttle derived.  I could make Hamilton puke in an Omega.

Third:  Why?  GM derived, practically plug-and-play, I'd wager far easier than replacing a V6 in a MkII Granada with a asthmatic V8.

Fouth:  Each to their own - It's not hot-rodding.  Hot-rodding is sticking an asthmatic engine into a 3tonne Ford!  ;)
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Re: Why Are People Not?
« Reply #17 on: 09 June 2015, 21:58:05 »


 :-\ The V6, especially the 3.0 isn't really what I'd call smooth, especially not when you nail it.  And the economy is really quite poor when measured against a BMW 4.4 V8 of the same era that can do 30mpg.  And it really isn't fast by modern standards at all. It would easily get battered by something as mundane as a C220 CDI from a standing start.  Gearing doesn't suit (slightly illegal) cruising speeds either.

Not to say I don't like it as an engine I must stress.

A V6 by pure definition is smooth, no exception with the X25XE, Y26SE, X30XE, Y32SE.  A properly running Vx V6 is like silk.

Same era V8 BMW stands no chance in the 'economy' department.  My e39 535i would struggle to get above mid teens, and the 339 is lighter than the Omega by a fair amount.... step up to the 7 series, and it's laughable. Ask me how I know!

Comparing a 20 year old car to a modern diesel is like comparing a Mother to her Daughter - Miles tend to wear out Humans, much like Cars.  Ask Lord Opti how he knows.

Anyway - On that last point, a standard B234/5R with TD04 (all standard) in an Omega would make a modern 530D shit itself..... after a remap, and it's bye byye!

Nah, It's the raspy rugged soundtrack to the first 4 series of road wars. Nothing refined about it.

My 740i averages 29.8  ;)

Well obviously... but a select few on here genuinely seem to believe their standard Omega is "fast" in 2015. It isn't.

If you remapped the 530d it wouldn't. (other than the fact the bm is so unreliable it'll blow a main bearing or coke up it's intake valves and thus may lose due to being stationary)  ;D
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Re: Why Are People Not?
« Reply #18 on: 09 June 2015, 22:11:42 »


Nah, It's the raspy rugged soundtrack to the first 4 series of road wars. Nothing refined about it.

My 740i averages 29.8  ;)

Well obviously... but a select few on here genuinely seem to believe their standard Omega is "fast" in 2015. It isn't.

If you remapped the 530d it wouldn't. (other than the fact the bm is so unreliable it'll blow a main bearing or coke up it's intake valves and thus may lose due to being stationary)  ;D

Are you driving it or towing it?  ;D

A remapped B234/5 9000/9-5 will leave a remapped E61/E90 530d for dead.  And bear in mind that a remap for these engines is roughly £70 from a well respected Guru.  With around 1k of work, it'll keep an E60 M5 on it's toes..... That's a lot of bang for your buck!
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Re: Why Are People Not?
« Reply #19 on: 09 June 2015, 22:36:18 »

The former. Not particularly sedately  :P

"yeah but if I added afterburners then..."   ...Besides, real men would have the 535d XFR   ;D
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