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[Ian_D]

Right, looks like I need to look into QoS... Ive never looked at it before.

I knew QoS = Quality of Service... But what that is/was..  

Looks like I will be busy reading my server books tonight!

which reminds me... need to stick a new tape in the backup drive, and start backing the thing up!!! Dont even know where the last backup is!  

Tis all fun!  

Edit : Quick one... Do all versions of 2003 come with QoS? Has it! Grr.. got to reboot it now! :-/

[Kevin Wood]

Trouble is, if only one half of the link provides it, it is always half baked isn't it?  I can control what leaves my network via QoS, but cannot control receiving, as other end of the link (ISP/IPStream) doesn't support it...

I'm all ears, and bow to your expertise on this

If the incoming traffic is a TCP stream it could presumably be crudely shaped at layer 3 by selectively delaying the outgoing acks based on bandwidth usage. The remote end would then go into congestion control and back off, assuming it's well-behaved.

If the incoming traffic is a shedload of SYNs or UDP datagrams you need some control at the remote end though.

Kevin

[Marks DTM Calib]

Hmmmm, from an equipment perspective, its normaly something you would set in a bridge at a layer 2 level based on prioritised que's......from a server perspective, I cant comment (although I suspect the software does a similar thing).

in the layer 2 scenario you would give yourself max priority and her a lesser one. You would then get priority over her  (it wont cut her QoS to zero though, just back it off)

Seem to recall stndard versions of W2k3 doesn't do QoS, and its not a great implementation anyway.

The QoS implementation on the routers I use works but isn't entirely foolproof, in that it can not do much about incoming traffic.  I have to use it on the OOF frontend router to keep certain services running well.

Depends on what algorithm the bridge (remember, its bridges at layer 2) is running for the QoS.

Reality is, QoS is the only option for true network control!

Trouble is, if only one half of the link provides it, it is always half baked isn't it?  I can control what leaves my network via QoS, but cannot control receiving, as other end of the link (ISP/IPStream) doesn't support it...

I'm all ears, and bow to your expertise on this

In this scenario we are trying to impliment traffic management on an egress port, we want fill capability in the ingress.....one port would be used for supply to sisters computer and the other the PC.

In your scenario, the QoS will have stopped at the ISP bridge port i.e. just beyond your reach and control (they wont want you to have control over QoS in THIER network now will they!).

[Jimbob]

I say again to have a look at netlimiter.

It gives you a nice updating table of all inbound and outbound traffic.

You click on the one you want to reduce, and set the max K they are allowed (both up and downstream) and hey presto.

In ICS, I believe there will be a SVCHOST process controlling all her bandwidth, limit this and I think you will be sorted.

Quick and dirty, but will give you control, there is a free trial version available

[cem_devecioglu]

my idea ..dont go into mess.. use seperate adsl lines

[Ian_D]

I say again to have a look at netlimiter.

It gives you a nice updating table of all inbound and outbound traffic.

You click on the one you want to reduce, and set the max K they are allowed (both up and downstream) and hey presto.

In ICS, I believe there will be a SVCHOST process controlling all her bandwidth, limit this and I think you will be sorted.

Quick and dirty, but will give you control, there is a free trial version available

I have used the trial a while back, only problem was she kept changing the limits herself.. or 'end tasking' it  

[Jimbob]

Did your run it on Your computer or hers?

Her access all goes through YOUR computer, so limit that, and provding she cant access your computer, bobs your uncle

[supermop]

I used something called Traffic Shaper before. Does the job.

Better to have it managed by hardware though, but routers that do that usually cost a few quid more than even rich people would want to part with.

[Ian_D]

Did your run it on Your computer or hers?

Her access all goes through YOUR computer, so limit that, and provding she cant access your computer, bobs your uncle

Ive got a Home server (Windows 2003). That is connected to broadband through a USB ADSL modem. The server has ICS on it which shares the internet.

My sisters PC (or family PC, has XP on). I then have my own pc, and a number of laptops.

If I install this onto the server, wouldn't it limit all the computers on the network?

[Ian_D]

...Only other way is like has been mentioned - get a decent router or a L3 switch & use QoS and give her a really low priority.

Can I just use the QoS on the server then?

Tell you what would be easy, get her to dial up to my server!!! I do this quite often through my own exchange when I need to put an old laptop onto the net for drivers etc! Doesn't cost me anything then