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But Entwood if you believe the way of life is better in other non-western liberal countries, and our freedom and liberty that millions have died for is not that good, fine, that is your opinion but for the reasons I stated it is not mine.

A tad of a cheap shot as I spent 38 years serving this country ....
That experience, including 7 different wars, did however widen my viewpoint and teach me to think before making very large generalisations .....
Merry Christmas, and just remember, Jesus was actually not a "liberated westerner"
Very sorry Entwood if you read this as a cheap shot and it was certainly not meant to be, but it is fact that millions of people have lost their lives fighting for our liberties and freedoms, which I am sure you as an ex-military man knows only too well as my Grandfather's, Great Uncle's, Father and one Son do after such sacrifice!
You are right, Jesus was not a "liberated westerner", let alone even white, but his disciples went forth and spread the 'word' amongst the people of the World, including the countries of Europe.
His teachings included the word of forgiveness, toleration and the warning that children must never be harmed. Mohamed also preached along very similar lines stressing peace to all and the importance of the innocence of children. An 8 year old
child comes under this teaching and should never be harmed by a 58 year old man, which any 'marriage' is so doing.
If countries allow this to happen, going away from both the teaching of Christ and Mohamed then sorry, but they are backward and ignoring the teachings of these men. Yes it is their country, but should we as part of the human race stand by and allow this to take place no more than slavery / human trafficking / torture no matter where it takes place (including our western countries!)
Do you believe in pedophilia? No of course you don't, so why defend any person or country who practices it? :-? :-? Forget human morals for a moment which yes I am passing judgement on using my female "western liberal standards", but just think of the physical effects of sex has on a child with a man.

Is that right?
Merry Christmas Entwood

, but let us all remember God's love for us all, his children, and especially the little children who it is down to us to protect, and God forgive
anyone,
anywhere in the World who commits sin against the children.

We are all sinners, but to me, a mother, sins against children, where ever in the World it takes place, is the biggest sin of all!
