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[TheBoy]

So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.

But what happens when you don't have a data connection? 

Expect local devices to get dumber as clouds and remote apps grow.

[TheBoy]

So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.

But what happens when you don't have a data connection? 

I'm working on that

Big problem with Cloud based stuff is upload speeds, we can all download at fairly good speeds. But upload is a fraction of the speed!

But what will you be uploading

If everything is stored in a cloud, there is very little being transferred, only locally generated content.

[o-meg-a]

So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.

But what happens when you don't have a data connection? 

I'm working on that

Big problem with Cloud based stuff is upload speeds, we can all download at fairly good speeds. But upload is a fraction of the speed!

But what will you be uploading

If everything is stored in a cloud, there is very little being transferred, only locally generated content.

That relies on you having a main home PC from which you upload and store content with a hardwired connection.
things like pictures etc, take time to upload unless compressed.

The further integration of city wide WIFI makes this a greater possibility. But so many places are going to be left out of these plans

[TheBoy]

So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.

But what happens when you don't have a data connection? 

I'm working on that

Big problem with Cloud based stuff is upload speeds, we can all download at fairly good speeds. But upload is a fraction of the speed!

But what will you be uploading

If everything is stored in a cloud, there is very little being transferred, only locally generated content.

That relies on you having a main home PC from which you upload and store content with a hardwired connection.
things like pictures etc, take time to upload unless compressed.

The further integration of city wide WIFI makes this a greater possibility. But so many places are going to be left out of these plans

No it doesn't. If everything is stored in the cloud, only locally generated content every needs to be uploaded.

Things like photos could easily be trickle uploaded, Microsoft BITS style

[o-meg-a]

Yes i suppose.
locally generated content would include, but not be limited to, photos, documents and videos etc.

the reliance on a constant connection however remains the same.

[Debs.]

Things like photos could easily be trickle uploaded, Microsoft BITS style

I have >3 TB of pics and video, spread over several NAS-HDD`s.....`quite like the idea of a reliable, remote back-up of them all (in original high-resolutions), but even with my cable-connection it`d surely take an eon to upload? :-/

[CaptainZok]

Things like photos could easily be trickle uploaded, Microsoft BITS style

I have >3 TB of pics and video, spread over several NAS-HDD`s.....`quite like the idea of a reliable, remote back-up of them all (in original high-resolutions), but even with my cable-connection it`d surely take an eon to upload? :-/

Sounds like TB's porn stash collection of interesting tea pot photos.

[Kevin Wood]

.. not to mention having to download it all to back it up on your machine at home.

.. or would you trust someone at Google not to delete your whole life?

Kevin

[TheBoy]

Things like photos could easily be trickle uploaded, Microsoft BITS style

I have >3 TB of pics and video, spread over several NAS-HDD`s.....`quite like the idea of a reliable, remote back-up of them all (in original high-resolutions), but even with my cable-connection it`d surely take an eon to upload? :-/

Pics are less of a problem, even at current broadband speeds, video is.

Once everything is in the cloud, and people realise that they don't need 100Mb download speeds, internet connections could be adjusted to increase upload at the cost of lowering download.

[Mysteryman]

Things like photos could easily be trickle uploaded, Microsoft BITS style

I have >3 TB of pics and video, spread over several NAS-HDD`s.....`quite like the idea of a reliable, remote back-up of them all (in original high-resolutions), but even with my cable-connection it`d surely take an eon to upload? :-/

Pics are less of a problem, even at current broadband speeds, video is.

Once everything is in the cloud, and people realise that they don't need 100Mb download speeds, internet connections could be adjusted to increase upload at the cost of lowering download.

Good thinking. You should get a job in telecomms or IT or something.

[TheBoy]

.. not to mention having to download it all to back it up on your machine at home.

.. or would you trust someone at Google not to delete your whole life?

Kevin

Google I wouldn't trust with a cookie, let alone my data. As has been proven on a couple of occasions now

But that is the essence of the cloud, you don't need to worry about your data or apps, they are looked after by the cloud provider.  Yeah, right.

[Kevin Wood]

But that is the essence of the cloud, you don't need to worry about your data or apps, they are looked after by the cloud provider.  Yeah, right.

.. and, one day, there's a thunderstorm.

Or somebody reports someone for doing something dodgy and their name rhymes with yours so the plug gets pulled on your account.

It's a nice idea for the masses, though, since there's no sign yet of a desktop OS that is easy possible for the man on the street to administer, and those who don't understand computers generally think they are infallible and don't backup anything. A thin client they can buy with all of that taken care of is a step forward, just not for me..

.. and connectivity needs to get much less flaky (and cheaper) than it currently is for the idea to fly IMHO.
 
Kevin

[TheBoy]

But that is the essence of the cloud, you don't need to worry about your data or apps, they are looked after by the cloud provider.  Yeah, right.

.. and, one day, there's a thunderstorm.

Or somebody reports someone for doing something dodgy and their name rhymes with yours so the plug gets pulled on your account.

It's a nice idea for the masses, though, since there's no sign yet of a desktop OS that is easy possible for the man on the street to administer, and those who don't understand computers generally think they are infallible and don't backup anything. A thin client they can buy with all of that taken care of is a step forward, just not for me..

.. and connectivity needs to get much less flaky (and cheaper) than it currently is for the idea to fly IMHO.
 
Kevin

Indeed, which is why Clouds are being targetted to corporate enterprises and companies with online presence, much less so individuals (although individuals may use the services provided by these companies using clouds)