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Mysteryman

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Cloud computing
« on: 29 March 2011, 19:40:24 »

I'm not sure I fully understand how this works. As far as I can tell, it's more or less a away of storing stuff on a third party computer/server and being able to access it whenever you need to.
I can understand that it would free up a lot of space on your computer to make applications run faster, in fact I suppose you could theoretically have unlimited virtual hard drive space.
I see today that amazon is giving 5Gb of space away for free. Enough for you to download 1,200 music tracks (only with google android so far).

But what about security? It's hard enough keeping your own computer bug free without having to worry if someone has burgled your computer in the sky.

Have I got the principle of it right and what are the pros and cons?
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #1 on: 29 March 2011, 19:45:41 »

Just had a eureka moment. I was thinking PC but, of course, you could have massive space on a mobile device. I'm beginning to understand...I think ;D
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #2 on: 29 March 2011, 19:53:22 »

I use dropbox which is basic kind of cloud computing, keeping my files in the 'cloud' which can be access by any mobile device, any computer, anywhere, its damn useful between different operating systems.

You have the basic principles right, like anything with computers, anything can be vulnerable, depends who its hosted with!
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #3 on: 29 March 2011, 19:54:35 »

Clouds are more than storage. It encompasses CaaS and DaaS - basically, your services run 'somewhere' within your chosen cloud, and you don't need to concern yourself with where or how.

Thats oversimplistic, but will do for now.
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #4 on: 29 March 2011, 19:54:41 »

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I use dropbox which is basic kind of cloud computing, keeping my files in the 'cloud' which can be access by any mobile device, any computer, anywhere, its damn useful between different operating systems.

You have the basic principles right, like anything with computers, anything can be vulnerable, depends who its hosted with!


Thanks Mark.
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #5 on: 29 March 2011, 19:55:34 »

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I use dropbox which is basic kind of cloud computing, keeping my files in the 'cloud' which can be access by any mobile device, any computer, anywhere, its damn useful between different operating systems.

You have the basic principles right, like anything with computers, anything can be vulnerable, depends who its hosted with!
Dropbox isn't really a cloud, and AFAIK, doesn't run in a cloud. Its a dedicated online storage facility :y
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #6 on: 29 March 2011, 19:55:46 »

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Clouds are more than storage. It encompasses CaaS and DaaS - basically, your services run 'somewhere' within your chosen cloud, and you don't need to concern yourself with where or how.

Thats oversimplistic, but will do for now.


I prefer Tunnies answer. ;D
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #7 on: 29 March 2011, 19:57:03 »

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Clouds are more than storage. It encompasses CaaS and DaaS - basically, your services run 'somewhere' within your chosen cloud, and you don't need to concern yourself with where or how.

Thats oversimplistic, but will do for now.


I prefer Tunnies answer. ;D
Sorry, Computing As A Service and Database As A Service.
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #8 on: 29 March 2011, 20:01:16 »

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I use dropbox which is basic kind of cloud computing, keeping my files in the 'cloud' which can be access by any mobile device, any computer, anywhere, its damn useful between different operating systems.

You have the basic principles right, like anything with computers, anything can be vulnerable, depends who its hosted with!
Dropbox isn't really a cloud, and AFAIK, doesn't run in a cloud. Its a dedicated online storage facility :y

Did say kind of... but true, i simplify it to an online USB memory stick to those that don't know.

For others D/SaaS - Data/Communication as a Service:

http://tools.google.com/dlpage/cloudconnect#
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #9 on: 29 March 2011, 20:01:33 »

So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #10 on: 29 March 2011, 20:02:19 »

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So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.

But what happens when you don't have a data connection?  :)
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« Reply #11 on: 29 March 2011, 20:06:29 »

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So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.

But what happens when you don't have a data connection?  :)


I'm working on that ;D
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« Reply #12 on: 29 March 2011, 20:08:31 »

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So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.

But what happens when you don't have a data connection?  :)


I'm working on that ;D

Big problem with Cloud based stuff is upload speeds, we can all download at fairly good speeds. But upload is a fraction of the speed!
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« Reply #13 on: 29 March 2011, 20:10:41 »

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So.......the end of pc's? After all, you only need a terminal to communicate with the cloud.

But what happens when you don't have a data connection?  :)


I'm working on that ;D

Big problem with Cloud based stuff is upload speeds, we can all download at fairly good speeds. But upload is a fraction of the speed!


Yes, of course. Well...my brain is full enough for now, I'll think some more later ;D
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Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #14 on: 29 March 2011, 21:24:58 »

Its like google's CR-48 notebook,

which uses the CHROME OS, which is basically the chrome browser with lots of installable extensions.

In essence, the browser is the only program that runs on the computer, and the computer has very little local (hardware) storage.

everything is stored on your online account and is accessible via wi-fi or 3g/HSPDA data connection.

As said before, this means that anything stored online will only be accessible when connected. Basic functionality is maintained, but is limited.

The benefit is two fold. Lighter and more portable hardware, such as a large screen tablet or laptop which is very thin, due to the lack of need for hardware data storage. Longer battery life overall, and ultra accessibility.

i have an android phone, and as such, any info stored on my google account is automatically transfered to my "cloud" account and is accessible from any device.

....the list goes on..
but i will stop lol
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