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[mrjimbo]

Does anybody know of a cheap source for D2S HID bulbs ?

I'm wanting to change mine for something better, probably 6000k as the ones in there at the moment (4100k) don't seem to be very bright. My mates got 6000k's in his and they seem to be much better.

[Jimbob]

4300k (original) are a yellower light than the 6000k's which are whiter,  the lower number actually illuminates better though.

I went from 4300 to 6000 when mine broke, all that will change is the colour, you wont get more light.

I beleive the best colour is 5000k. best daylight natural match.

the cheap ebay ones are often of dubius quality, and an equvialent known bulb will often illuminate better due to how the chinese get the colours.

I would shop around for the cheapest osram or phillips you can find.

[eliteomegaman]

Following on from what Jimbob has said i thought i'd give u a full explanation from a wholesaler -

PHILIPS PATENTS

HID XENON REPLACEMENT BULB
D2S  (2PCS)

Color Temperatures:

4300K - Extreme White
   4300K has an approximately 3100lm output, which is more than 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and is the color temperature with the most output. The light appears fairly white, and has light yellowish hue when reflected off the road identical to the OEM HID equipped vehicles. It is ideal for customers who do a lot of back road or canyon driving and need the optimal visibility.


6000K - Diamond White
   6000K has an approximately 2900lm output, which is 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and slightly less light output compared to the 4300K. Although it has a bit lesser light output, it emits pure whiter light with a slight tint of blue.


8000K - Iceberg Blue
   8000K has an approximately 2500lm output, which is about 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and slightly less light output compared to the 6000K. While it has a bit lesser light output, it emits bluer light than the 6000K. This is one of the most popular of all color temperatures by customer demand
[ch12288]


12000K - Violet Purple
   12000K has an approximately 2000lm output, which is more than 2x the light output of the traditional halogen light. This color temperature puts out a deep bluish violet light and is deeper colored than the 6000K. It is for customer who is looking for the more extreme and more exotic looking light output.


30000K - Purple or Dark Blue
   30000K has an approximately 2000lm output, which is more than 2x the light output of the traditional halogen light. This color temperature puts out a deep bluish violet light and is much deeper colored than the 12000K. It is for customer who is looking for the most extreme and most exotic looking light output.

[ch12288]


   Please note: most customers have a common misconception that the higher the K (Kelvin temperature) the brighter it gets, but in fact, it's the opposite. The K rating is inversely proportional to the light output.

Hope this helps u decide 

[mrjimbo]

Thanks Jimbob and eliteomegaman that seems to be what i'd already seen whilst looking for info, mainly on the internet 

The problem is though, i recently swapped cars with a chap at work for a weekend as he needed to move a couple of large items that wouldn't fit into his saloon so he borrowed my estate and as soon as i drove his i found the lights to be far better than mine both on a dry road and on a wet road, when he returned my car he said how poor the lights on mine were compared to his. He knows that when he first got his car he found the lights to be poor comared to his previous Ford Mondeo so he changed the bulbs from the ones that were in there which turned out to be the same as mine when we looked (Osram XENARC D2S 35w 66040) to a pair 6000k D2S's but he can't find what make they are as there no makers name on the reciept or on the bulb. When i checked the numbers on my bulbs on Osrams website they came out as 4100k's. I can't find any reason why these bulbs shouldn't give a decent light as the light unit is clean inside and out and the outside of the lens cover has been polished up to remove any discolouring or marks and there no different to his light units, if anything mine are in better condition than his as his have some stone chip marks and are slightly discoloured aswell.

I don't really know what to do here, i don't want to go and buy different bulbs and find they are worse than what i have now, but i really need to improve these lights somehow.

[jereboam]

4300k (original) are a yellower light than the 6000k's which are whiter,  the lower number actually illuminates better though.

I went from 4300 to 6000 when mine broke, all that will change is the colour, you wont get more light.

I beleive the best colour is 5000k. best daylight natural match.

the cheap ebay ones are often of dubius quality, and an equvialent known bulb will often illuminate better due to how the chinese get the colours.

I would shop around for the cheapest osram or phillips you can find.

I've been using a set of "cheap eBay" 6000K bulbs for about 2 years.  Can't say I've noticed any loss of illumination, and at £20 for a pair rather than Vauxhall's quoted £149 each for the original equipment, I don't care if I have to replace them every six months. 

[Jimbob]

4300k (original) are a yellower light than the 6000k's which are whiter,  the lower number actually illuminates better though.

I went from 4300 to 6000 when mine broke, all that will change is the colour, you wont get more light.

I beleive the best colour is 5000k. best daylight natural match.

the cheap ebay ones are often of dubius quality, and an equvialent known bulb will often illuminate better due to how the chinese get the colours.

I would shop around for the cheapest osram or phillips you can find.

I've been using a set of "cheap eBay" 6000K bulbs for about 2 years.  Can't say I've noticed any loss of illumination, and at £20 for a pair rather than Vauxhall's quoted £149 each for the original equipment, I don't care if I have to replace them every six months. 

Im the same, but know im in the minority, if I knew then how the chinese make the bulbs in comparrison to 'real' ones, I wouldnt have bought em, ill dig out the detail.....

Ohh and Ebay to Vauxhall is one extreme to another, there is a good middle ground

[mrjimbo]

Cheers Jimbob 

[mrjimbo]

Cheers jereboam, do you find they are any bettter or worse than the standard Vauxhall bulbs ?

[Jimbob]

I cannot for the life of me find the paper explaining the differences..

but have a read of this..and enjoy the picture, think it may help you decide.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=585675&r=9174248&hm=59677

[Mr Skrunts]

I think MDTM posted a load of stuff about the temp charts etc.

Went for a look myself and found this on one of the threads.



Doesent go don to 4000k but gives an idea of what not to bother with.

[mrjimbo]

Ahhhhhhhh decisions, decisions................