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[stevenwoody]

i have 3.0 elite which i have got running nicely after it was laid up for 2 years, however on my to do list was a timing belt change. But yesterday jumped in it for my normal work commute when it developed a horrible noise form the front of the engine that noise soon developed into a misfire so after getting it home and stripping it down last night i found the o/s tensioner-idler had literally broken up there was only half the ball bearings there should have been and there is so much movement its scary. However it still ran up till when it was stripped with just the misfire and the noise to show there was anything wrong i have looked and it appears it has jumped a couple of teeth. What internal damage do you think there could be??? 

[Jimbob]

sounds suspiciously like youve bent your valves 

so heads off...replace valves, or but replacement heads and refit.

not a small job though

[Bionic]

You might just be the luckiest man alive if you replace the belt and reset the timing then test the compressions.
If that does not bring it back to life and the heads still need to come off at least you will have already got a new belt and tensioner.
Its worth a try cos sometimes the good luck fairy smiles at us.
(no doubt someone will pick up on that phrase )
GudLuk though from us all......
 

[Lazydocker]

If it's only jumped 2 teeth you may just be very lucky. As above, I'd get a new kit and stick it on, then do a compression test as that's the only way to know for sure

The fact it was still running does hint towards you being lucky, but there's no guarantee until you try

[henryd]

also make sure you use the locking kit,its nigh on impossible to get the timing correct without one

[Gaffers]

sounds suspiciously like youve bent your valves 

so heads off...replace valves, or but replacement heads and refit.

not a small job though

It is not a small job as I can testify.  Before going down that route I would suggest new cambelt kit and tensioners fitted using a cambelt locking kit first.  Then if still running poor conduct a compression test.  If it is only 2 teeth then you may well have been very lucky, I have seen 2.5/3 teeth out still run so you never know.

Good luck 

[stevenwoody]

thanks for the positives i just pray its ok, now next question anyone in kent got a locking tool i could borrow???

[JamesV6CDX]

Just a thought - if you want to test it, without buying a new kit, I can send you a working lower idler, that you can use for testing purposes?

Will save you shelling out £100 or so for a kit and then finding the engine is screwed!

[stevenwoody]

that is an idea but if there are bent valves then the lil beastie will be ripped apart and rebuilt probably over this weekend, ringing round all my trader mates to find this flaming tool lol

[Nick W]

that is an idea but if there are bent valves then the lil beastie will be ripped apart and rebuilt probably over this weekend, ringing round all my trader mates to find this flaming tool lol

I've got one if it becomes desperate.
I'm in Chatham, so not too far!

[stevenwoody]

thats handy to know!!!

now need a timing belt cover tho coz mine come apart in lots of bits

[henryd]

thats handy to know!!!

now need a timing belt cover tho coz mine come apart in lots of bits

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