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[Vamps]

What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"

you mean a catheter 

Thats the thing  But sadly the urine runs the wrong way when they do it 

Really? I have heard it all now.......

[symes]

 

[Rods2]

There were at the time a minority of cyclists that refused to dope and it those honest people that I feel sorry for.

The fact that he ruthlessly went after people who alleged he was doping at the time through the courts and won damages, he should now be charged with perjury and hopefully jailed.

Many of the sports ruling body are alleged to have colluded with Lance Armstrong when he bought them off for a failed urine test for $100,000. These people also need to be brought to book.

I think the only way to cleanse the sport of this disgraceful era is to find out who doped and who was clean for all of the past 20 years of the Tour de France and other professional cycle races by all of the competitors signing a public statement on whether they were clean or doping. If they sign that they were clean and it later transpires that they were doping they should face jail.

To me Lance Armstrong's aggressive any bullying covering of his actions is actually worse than the cheating itself and that is why I think it is right he should be on perjury charges.

To clean up the sport many heads within the Cycling Federation past and present need to roll. Although an Olympic ban would unfairly penalize those that are clean and also the UK where we are very strong in this sport, the threat of this maybe necessary to get the Cycling Federation to take the necessary action to clean up their act.

Well done to the US cycling federation and US Government for pursuing this to the end, despite all of his official denials and legal action to stop the truth coming out. 

[feeutfo]

I'm not sure i didn't see anything other than an extremely intense sportsman at the top of his game, playing that game to the absolute max, as you have go do to be no1.

And as with most top sportsman, a complete inability to know where the line is. Sure, he knew where the whining line is, but completely lost all comprehension of the moral line.


The rest was covering the tracks, with all that was at stake. Fans, teams, sponsors not just of him, but the cancer foundation which raised $500,000,000 in total so far.

He's the head of a massive pyramid under him. Of a sport that was partly responsible for doping in itself.

He failed them all before he even knew what he was doing. Sad sad sad story.

[symes]

Its how sport is thought about    England=Oh well you did your best   USA=second is first loser you in it to win
So the temtation to chat is there.However what about ALL the others that helped Lance??? not heard about them?have you?

[omega3000]

What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"

I had that done a few years ago , most embarrassing and painful .. it dont help when 2 trainee students are in the room either 

[symes]

What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"

I remember one guy pulled out !!!!

I had that done a few years ago , most embarrassing and painful .. it dont help when 2 trainee students are in the room either 

[Gaffers]

He did something wrong, lied about it, lied again, continued lying, did a couple of good things using the spoils of the lie, never once did he come clean until he had to.  The guy is a disgrace, likening his lifetime ban to a death sentence!  If he was showing true remorse he would have said "fair cop, I merit all the punishment you deem necessary to throw at me"

Sorry, but he is not even worthy of the time spent on this thread.  opps him.

[ozzycat]

He did something wrong, lied about it, lied again, continued lying, did a couple of good things using the spoils of the lie, never once did he come clean until he had to.  The guy is a disgrace, likening his lifetime ban to a death sentence!  If he was showing true remorse he would have said "fair cop, I merit all the punishment you deem necessary to throw at me"

Sorry, but he is not even worthy of the time spent on this thread.  opps him.

  totaly agree with every word hes lied about it in the past hes still lying now  bleeding gobshite

[albitz]

He did something wrong, lied about it, lied again, continued lying, did a couple of good things using the spoils of the lie, never once did he come clean until he had to.  The guy is a disgrace, likening his lifetime ban to a death sentence!  If he was showing true remorse he would have said "fair cop, I merit all the punishment you deem necessary to throw at me"

Sorry, but he is not even worthy of the time spent on this thread.  opps him.

Completely agree.In addition to all of the above he used his position and wealth to try destroy good honest people who tried to expose him for the bullying,cheating,lying egomaniac he is. I believe it was his masseusse, who he branded an alcoholic and a whore when she tried to tell the truth.
Ive known people like him,and I genuinely hate that type of character.The world would be a better place without them.

[feeutfo]

He did something wrong, lied about it, lied again, continued lying, did a couple of good things using the spoils of the lie, never once did he come clean until he had to.  The guy is a disgrace, likening his lifetime ban to a death sentence!  If he was showing true remorse he would have said "fair cop, I merit all the punishment you deem necessary to throw at me"

Sorry, but he is not even worthy of the time spent on this thread.  opps him.

Completely agree.In addition to all of the above he used his position and wealth to try destroy good honest people who tried to expose him for the bullying,cheating,lying egomaniac he is. I believe it was his masseusse, who he branded an alcoholic and a whore when she tried to tell the truth.
Ive known people like him,and I genuinely hate that type of character.The world would be a better place without them.

Yes my post sounds a bit like I'm defending him a bit, having re read it. Many people's careers affected , destroyed, and at best wont reflect a true position of what they could have achieved, because of Lance Armstrong.