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« Reply #60 on: 18 December 2008, 00:28:09 »

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On the subject of conspiricies. I also think Princess Dianes death is also a cover up.


Did you know that the word "gullible" cannot be found in the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary?  ::)
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« Reply #61 on: 18 December 2008, 00:49:35 »

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On the subject of conspiricies. I also think Princess Dianes death is also a cover up.


Did you know that the word "gullible" cannot be found in the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary?  ::)


Funny how half the worlds population believe in various Gods....yet they cant see,taste or touch what they believe in they still believe and its widely accepted.

Yet believe America could commit such horrendous acts and your a ridiculed or a fantasist ect ect....don't make much sense. :-?

Oh and Diana...lets look at the facts....would the royal family really ALLOW her too have dildo fido"s  baby,the future king of England with a half cast brother....yeah no way. :exclamation
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« Reply #62 on: 18 December 2008, 00:54:59 »

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On the subject of conspiricies. I also think Princess Dianes death is also a cover up.


Did you know that the word "gullible" cannot be found in the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary?  ::)


Funny how half the worlds population believe in various Gods....yet they cant see,taste or touch what they believe in they still believe and its widely accepted.

Yet believe America could commit such horrendous acts and your a ridiculed or a fantasist ect ect....don't make much sense. :-?

Oh and Diana...lets look at the facts....would the royal family really ALLOW her too have dildo fido"s  baby,the future king of England with a half cast brother....yeah no way. :exclamation

Give me a break, please. The driver was pissed, the two backseat passengers were not wearing belts. Had they been they would likely have survived. You don't wipe out people in car crashes, except in Hollywood. Bombs maybe, but crashes never, as there's no degree of confidence in the end result and survival can point fingers.

It was an accident. End of.  :(
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stuart30

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« Reply #63 on: 18 December 2008, 00:58:24 »

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On the subject of conspiricies. I also think Princess Dianes death is also a cover up.


Did you know that the word "gullible" cannot be found in the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary?  ::)


Funny how half the worlds population believe in various Gods....yet they cant see,taste or touch what they believe in they still believe and its widely accepted.

Yet believe America could commit such horrendous acts and your a ridiculed or a fantasist ect ect....don't make much sense. :-?

Oh and Diana...lets look at the facts....would the royal family really ALLOW her too have dildo fido"s  baby,the future king of England with a half cast brother....yeah no way. :exclamation

Give me a break, please. The driver was pissed, the two backseat passengers were not wearing belts. Had they been they would likely have survived. You don't wipe out people in car crashes, except in Hollywood. Bombs maybe, but crashes never, as there's no degree of confidence in the end result and survival can point fingers.

It was an accident. End of.  :(

Maybe or maybe not...either way very convenient wasn't it.?
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Nickbat

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« Reply #64 on: 18 December 2008, 01:06:33 »

Funnily enough, I do believe that conspiracies exist. However, they are not as obvious as suggested in this thread.

Furthermore, I believe in the double-bluff. Get enough people to believe the US and the West in general is wicked, through conspiracy theories, and you have the perfect setup for a real conspiracy.

Global warming, anyone?

http://green-agenda.com/greenweb.html
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« Reply #65 on: 18 December 2008, 01:06:39 »

Its the bilderburgers and burger kings fault i think.... :o :-? ::)
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« Reply #66 on: 18 December 2008, 01:15:33 »

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On the subject of conspiricies. I also think Princess Dianes death is also a cover up.


Did you know that the word "gullible" cannot be found in the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary?  ::)


Funny how half the worlds population believe in various Gods....yet they cant see,taste or touch what they believe in they still believe and its widely accepted.

Yet believe America could commit such horrendous acts and your a ridiculed or a fantasist ect ect....don't make much sense. :-?

Oh and Diana...lets look at the facts....would the royal family really ALLOW her too have dildo fido"s  baby,the future king of England with a half cast brother....yeah no way. :exclamation

Heeelllloo!!! Harry??
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« Reply #67 on: 18 December 2008, 01:29:56 »

It may be an idea to avoid making statements and ending the post with "end of"...because so far...it hasn't been,  and knowing this lot...never will be !

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No one has to accept anyone elses opinion...not in this country...and certainly not on here.

As for the car crash not being a guaranteed result. That is true.

The conspiracy theory from the Diana/Dodi accident arises from what happened after.
Why did the ambulance take so long to get to the hospital. I'm not sure of the facts but something about not taking a direct route rings a bell.
As for the driver being in-toxicated...big hoohaa about blood samples there.
But agreed, a car crash alone...too much room for an un-satisfactory outcome. There would have to be other factors. Like an ambulance taking the scenic route maybe... ;)

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stuart30

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« Reply #68 on: 18 December 2008, 06:56:33 »

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On the subject of conspiricies. I also think Princess Dianes death is also a cover up.


Did you know that the word "gullible" cannot be found in the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary?  ::)


Funny how half the worlds population believe in various Gods....yet they cant see,taste or touch what they believe in they still believe and its widely accepted.

Yet believe America could commit such horrendous acts and your a ridiculed or a fantasist ect ect....don't make much sense. :-?

Oh and Diana...lets look at the facts....would the royal family really ALLOW her too have dildo fido"s  baby,the future king of England with a half cast brother....yeah no way. :exclamation

Heeelllloo!!! Harry??

Noooo im called Stuart  ;D ;D ;D




















Unless im missing something mate Harry is his full blood WHITE brother....not half Egyptian. ;D

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« Reply #69 on: 18 December 2008, 09:22:28 »

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On the subject of conspiricies. I also think Princess Dianes death is also a cover up.


Did you know that the word "gullible" cannot be found in the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary?  ::)


Funny how half the worlds population believe in various Gods....yet they cant see,taste or touch what they believe in they still believe and its widely accepted.

Yet believe America could commit such horrendous acts and your a ridiculed or a fantasist ect ect....don't make much sense. :-?

Oh and Diana...lets look at the facts....would the royal family really ALLOW her too have dildo fido"s  baby,the future king of England with a half cast brother....yeah no way. :exclamation

Heeelllloo!!! Harry??


No way - Harry is a clone of Philip - he is so like the Duke of Edinburgh - he has to be related.
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« Reply #70 on: 18 December 2008, 09:36:46 »

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I see that Webster Griffin Tarpley, the author of that paper, is a member of the "world anti-imperialist conference" Axis for Peace, of Scholars for 9/11 Truth and of a research Netzwerk of German 9/11 authors founded in September 2006.

In August, 2007, Webster Tarpley issued the Kennebunkport Warning, which claimed an impending "false flag attack" in America in the "coming months." Controversy ensued after Jamilla El-Shafei, Cindy Sheehan, Dahlia Wasfi, and Ann Wright issued a joint-statement claiming that they did not sign this Kennebunkport Warning. In response to this denial, Tarpley sent out a widely distributed and highly publicized email in which he characterized Cindy Sheehan, Anne Wright and other anti-war activists as "lying in appalling fashion" and "wretched individuals."

In January 2008, Tarpley became one of the first critics to assert that Barack Obama is actually managed by right-wing powerbrokers. Tarpley claimed that a shift in power had taken place in the ruling class, with the Brzezinski faction and its presidential candidate Obama ascendant over the lame-duck neocons. The targets of US imperialism would now be Russia, China and its ally Pakistan, instead of Iraq, Iran and Syria. He developed these themes in his two books on Obama.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_Tarpley

A strange chap with strange ideas. Think I'll give the paper a miss.  ;)

Exactly Nickbat, and I am sorry to disagree with you Cem on all your well put argument, but the fact remains there is no actual proof given  by Tarpley, who is neither a Professor or Doctor in the History or Political profession. He is just an individual with a BA, who makes assertions and assumptions and, as I said before, is a journalist who wants to gain fame and sell books by making outlandish claims.

All of us can state our opinion of fact after researching facts; state papers, multiple sources of papers, witness statements, film,  CCTV, voice recordings, etc, which will then be challenged by others who have different points of view once they have properly researched  the evidence like we have using qualitative and quantitative methods.  i.e as you would comparing the arguments of Chomsky v. Newman conspiracy theory over JFK's assassination and whether or not Kennedy planned to withdraw from Vietnam.  Opinions on this generally favour Chomsky conclusion that there is no proof to support Newman's claims, even once all academic measures of analysis is applied. 8-) 8-)

Tarpley is a wild cannon who has not carried out such detailed research and gained conflicting evidence as Chomsky and Newman, recognized experts in their field did, producing just a rhetoric of assumption and assertion which I have yet to see any reputable historian or political expert / academic support.  Therefore whatever he writes carries no validity and would not stand up to challenge. ;)

Once he produces real evidence that would stand up in a court of law or inspection by academics then I will take notice. ::) ::)

But the truth is he will not be able to, just as the disgraced historian David Irvin couldn't over his wild and factually absurd claims that the Holocaust never  transpired due to his political affiliations. >:( >:(  


 



I finished nearly one quarter of the book Last night ..(not easy with a

dictionary)  there were many many facts that proove my statements

and many peoples ideas that can not be regarded even you close

your eyes..

    He may not hold a university degree in that area..but abolsutely

not necessary..Like I dont not need to be a doctor to say your arm is

broken ;D ::)

    he only states the facts about events , what has happened and

what people tell and connects the relations in a logical manner like

every normal journalist or an ordinary person.. I must also note that

the things in the book are so serious and interconnected that these

can never be named as "assumptions"..

    Now I must state here that there is NO PROOF OR REAL EVIDENCE

that the official scenario is CORRECT..

And this official scenario is not accepted by many countries from

europe (ie Germany) and from middle east.. So first in first this

scenario must be prooved ;)


   but there are many many contrary proofs..

(ie two or three of the kamikazes in the list was prooved to be still

living and no relation with that event ;D ;D)

    Another example is ; if you read many pages about the Kean -

Hamilton comission you will simply see that  they have no intention to

find the truth and details.  And facts are covered by the

"security and secret" lies of govt auth..

    Now I want to give some ideas from your country :







      

 
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« Reply #71 on: 18 December 2008, 09:43:20 »

...(continues from the book)
Michael Meacher had been a close associate of Tony Blair and one of the most prominent leaders of New Labour. He was a member of Parliament, and from May 1997 to June 2003, he had been the Environment Minister of Britain. Other members of the Blair cabinet, such as the former Overseas Development Minister, Claire Short, had quit over the Iraq adventure. Meacher was more courageous and more radical: he called into question the
heart of the myth which the Bush administration wanted to foist off on the world.

Meacher wrote:

First, it is clear the US authorities did little or nothing to pre-empt the
events of 9/11. It is known that at least 11 countries provided advance
warning to the US of the 9/11 attacks. Two senior Mossad experts were sent to Washington in August 2001 to alert the C?A and F?I to a cell of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation (Daily Telegraph, September 16, 2001). The list they provided included the names of four of the 9/11 hijackers, none of whom was arrested.
It had been known as early as 1996 that there were plans to hit
Washington targets with aeroplanes. Then in 1999 a US national
intelligence council report noted that “al-Qaida suicide bo?bers could
crash-land an aircraft packed with high explo?ives into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the C?A, or the White House.”

Fifteen of the 9/11 hijackers obtained their visas in Saudi Arabia. Michael Springman, the former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah, has stated that since 1987 the C?A had been illicitly issuing visas to unqualified applicants from the Middle East and bringing them to the US for training in terrorism for the Afghan war in collaboration with Bin Laden (BBC, November 6, 2001). It seems this operation continued after the Afghan war for other purposes. It is also reported that five of the hijackers received training at secure US military installations in the 1990s (Newsweek, September 15, 2001).

Instructive leads prior to 9/11 were not followed up. French Moroccan
flight student Zacarias Moussaoui (now thought to be the 20th hijacker)
was arrested in August 2001 after an instructor reported he showed a
suspicious interest in learning how to steer large airliners. When US
agents learned from French intelligence he had radical Islamist ties, they sought a warrant to search his computer, which contained clues to the September 11 mission (Times, November 3, 2001). But they were turned down by the F?I. One agent wrote, a month before 9/11, that Moussaoui might be planning to crash into the Twin Towers (Newsweek, May 20, 2002).

All of this makes it all the more astonishing - on the war on terrorism
perspective - that there was such slow reaction on September 11 itself. The first hijacking was suspected at no later than 8.20 AM, and the last hijacked aircraft crashed in Pennsylvania at 10.06 AM. Not a single fighter plane was scrambled to investigate from US Andrews Air Force base, just 10 miles from Washington DC, until after the third plane had hit the Pentagon at 9.38 AM. Why not? There were standard FAA intercept procedures for hijacked aircraft before 9/11. Between September 2000 and June 2001 the US military launched fighter aircraft on 67 occasions to chase suspicious aircraft (AP, August 13, 2002). It is a US legal requirement that once an aircraft has moved significantly off its flight plan, fighter planes are sent up to investigate.
Was this inaction simply the result of key people disregarding, or being
ignorant of, the evidence? Or could US air security operations have been deliberately stood down on September 11? If so, why, and on whose authority? The former US federal crimes prosecutor, John Loftus, has said: “The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the C?A or F?I to assert a defence of incompetence.”
Nor is the US response after 9/11 any better. No serious attempt has ever been made to catch Bin Laden. In late September and early October 2001, leaders of Pakistan's two Islamist parties negotiated Bin Laden's extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for 9/11. However, a US official said, significantly, that “casting our objectives too narrowly” risked “a premature collapse of the international effort if by some lucky chance Mr. Bin Laden was captured.” The US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Myers, went so far as to say that “the goal has never been to get Bin Laden” (AP, April 5, 2002). The whistleblowing F?I agent Robert Wright told ABC News (December 19, 2002) that F?I headquarters wanted no arrests. And in November 2001 the US airforce complained it had had al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in its sights as many as 10 times over the previous six weeks, but had been unable to attack because they did not receive permission quickly enough (Time Magazine, May 13,
2002).

None of this assembled evidence, all of which comes from sources already in the public domain, is compatible with the idea of a real, determined war on terrorism. (Michael Meacher, “This war on terrorism is bogus.” The Guardian, September 6, 2003)

and another paragraph :

They (comission) also began to notice that the F?I continued to lie systematically, and in the process they became aware of some of the anomalies in the government story. Two of the accused hijackers, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, had been known to US
intelligence agencies well before 9/11, and important facts about them had been languishing unused in federal files for 15 months. As the JICI discovered, these two persons had had extensive dealings with a longtime FBI counterterrorism informant based in California. The case was very suspicious.
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« Reply #72 on: 18 December 2008, 19:13:17 »

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On the subject of conspiricies. I also think Princess Dianes death is also a cover up.


Did you know that the word "gullible" cannot be found in the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary?  ::)


Funny how half the worlds population believe in various Gods....yet they cant see,taste or touch what they believe in they still believe and its widely accepted.

Yet believe America could commit such horrendous acts and your a ridiculed or a fantasist ect ect....don't make much sense. :-?

Oh and Diana...lets look at the facts....would the royal family really ALLOW her too have dildo fido"s  baby,the future king of England with a half cast brother....yeah no way. :exclamation

Heeelllloo!!! Harry??


No way - Harry is a clone of Philip - he is so like the Duke of Edinburgh - he has to be related.


Well the Royals being the Royals i dread too think what they get up too behind closed doors..... ;D
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« Reply #73 on: 18 December 2008, 20:18:46 »

I don't believe that the Diana 'accident' was just that - an accident.

The questions raised by how long the ambulance took, the white car, a flash in the tunnel & the driver being drunk or not are not what makes me suspicious. What does is the fact that Rees Jones, the bodyguard, was wearing a seat belt. He was trained in Close Protection (bodyguard) by the Military Police. I am an ex military police trained bodyguard and one thing you never ever do while you're on duty is wear a seatbelt. You can't get out of the vehicle quick enough and it's too restrictive in taking any action within the vehicle. I still have problems in wearing one now and I don't work in that field anymore. Also if he had any doubts about the drivers competance he would have driven or got another driver.

As for 9/11 there are a lot of unanswered questions such as how come pilots who were useless at flying a light aircraft (from the instructors who taught them) were able to do what they were supposed to do?
 How come a passport (made from cardboard) was able to fly out of a pilots pocket, remain outside the building as the plane hits thus avoiding being burnt, then go back inside the building so it could fall down with the rest of the rubble and still be readable?
 The tape of the interview of the owner of the Twin Towers recorded immediately after the events where he said he gave orders to 'pull' the building (demolish it) has got lost?
Why the helicopters flying over and around the Twin Towers as they burned were unmarked and made no effort at rescues?


Unfortunately they are just questions because the answers will never be disclosed. ALL western governments are capable of carrying out things that would horrify most people. However they will never be proved one way or the other as they cover it up completely.
Whatever your opinion on any of the conspiracy theories I have a feeling you'll never be proved right. Look on the bright side though - you'll never be proved wrong either.
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