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[TheBoy]

Well done Jaime in fixing the prob  

I never noticed as i was out working  

Ive got a 47AH battery sat on my kitchen floor doing nothing.....bit heavy to post to you for a spare  

LOL, cheaper for me to get one from dealer than it is to post one

[Timbuk]

I never noticed as i was out working  

I wasn't the only one at work today then

[Taxi_Driver]

they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files  

Hmmm

Wrong backup software  

[TheBoy]

they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files  

Hmmm

Wrong backup software  

Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum

[Taxi_Driver]

they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files  

Hmmm

Wrong backup software  

Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum

Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses  ....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example

[TheBoy]

they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files  

Hmmm

Wrong backup software  

Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum

Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses  ....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example

My W2K3 server that hosts the VM that runs this place uses ARCserve, complete with Exchange agent.  I do not use SQL agent, and back up all the SQL stuff a different way...

[Jimbob]

ARCServe, Yuk, hated managing that...

Great until you need to restore
Used it on Netware and Windows
PIA with its version incompatabilites.

[ClarCE]

they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files  

Hmmm

Wrong backup software  

Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum

Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses  ....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example

My W2K3 server that hosts the VM that runs this place uses ARCserve, complete with Exchange agent.  I do not use SQL agent, and back up all the SQL stuff a different way...

5 servers:

1 PDC (W2K Advanced Server)
1 File Print (W2K3 Server)
1 SQL 2003 (W2k3 Server)
1 NAS (W2K3 Appliance Server)
1 Exchange 2003 (W2K3 Server)

All backed up by NT backup - despite the many arguments I've had, they won't give me the money I need to implement a proper solution, I look forward to the day that it all goes wrong so I can say 'I told you so' although it'll still be my fault in their eyes I'm sure...

Management here are a bunch of numpties sadly. I've tried everyway I can think of under the sun to get them to give me a budget here, its a joke really - especially from a 16 million a year turn over company.  We've just been bought out by another company, combined we're now looking at 30 million a year and I.T. for the group is going to fall under my control, so hopefully things will change - I have a few prequesits for them before I pick up those reigns...

Linking everything together and pushing the ERP application I've developed out accross the group is going to cost money, if it comes to it I'll be hiding a backup solution within that cost.

[TheBoy]

ARCServe, Yuk, hated managing that...

Great until you need to restore
Used it on Netware and Windows
PIA with its version incompatabilites.

The Netware one, esp 5.1g was a tad unstable. V6 sorted that out.  Used to support several hundred Netware 4 and 5 servers running ARCserve 6, never really had problems. Occasionally had to rescan the tape to do a restore because ARCserve had screwed its db...

Under Windows, ARCserve always seemed a bit more solid, but again, occasionally had to merge the tape back in...

[x25xe]

they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files  

Hmmm

Wrong backup software  

Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum

Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses  ....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example

My W2K3 server that hosts the VM that runs this place uses ARCserve, complete with Exchange agent.  I do not use SQL agent, and back up all the SQL stuff a different way...

5 servers:

1 PDC (W2K Advanced Server)
1 File Print (W2K3 Server)
1 SQL 2003 (W2k3 Server)
1 NAS (W2K3 Appliance Server)
1 Exchange 2003 (W2K3 Server)

All backed up by NT backup - despite the many arguments I've had, they won't give me the money I need to implement a proper solution, I look forward to the day that it all goes wrong so I can say 'I told you so' although it'll still be my fault in their eyes I'm sure...

Management here are a bunch of numpties sadly. I've tried everyway I can think of under the sun to get them to give me a budget here, its a joke really - especially from a 16 million a year turn over company.  We've just been bought out by another company, combined we're now looking at 30 million a year and I.T. for the group is going to fall under my control, so hopefully things will change - I have a few prequesits for them before I pick up those reigns...

Linking everything together and pushing the ERP application I've developed out accross the group is going to cost money, if it comes to it I'll be hiding a backup solution within that cost.

Running on NT backup they are asking for trouble.  How do you manage to back up Exchange with this?  What about flushing the logs for example?

At work, I use Backup Exec so have never tried the NT backup with exchange.  Company was not keen on my backup solution, relying on an out of date copy of Arcserve (which I hated) and a DDS4 drive that was on it's last legs.  I just placed the order for what I wanted when no one was looking and the FD was out of the office on holiday so did not see the invoice..........

[Kevin Wood]

but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example

I finally managed to give the work exchange server the back up it deserved this week. Back up to the skip and chuck the F**king thing over the side!

It finally sailed too close to the wind when it accepted all wednesday's emails to my Boss (logs to prove it) and hid them in a black hole somewhere.


Kevin

[TheBoy]

Sure he didn't have a dim witted rule set up

Exchange is not too bad tbh.  Better than most corporate mail systems.


As to backups, Exchange comes with a modified version of NT Backup to cope with Exchange. Still wouldn't use it though.  ARCserve isn't too bad once you get used to it, and works well as a 'set and forget' system.  Backup Exec showed promise when Seagate, Veritas did their usual thing and ruined it, and I suspect Symantec will add more bloat at the expense of reliability.  BackupExec has a horrible habit of not telling you its screwed up, so you have to be good and check daily.

Hence I stick to ARCserve (think I'm running v11). Netbackup is also capable, though does tend to blue screen Windows servers sometimes. Overkill for small setups though...

[hotel21]

they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files  

Hmmm

Wrong backup software  

Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum

Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses  ....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example

My W2K3 server that hosts the VM that runs this place uses ARCserve, complete with Exchange agent.  I do not use SQL agent, and back up all the SQL stuff a different way...

5 servers:

1 PDC (W2K Advanced Server)
1 File Print (W2K3 Server)
1 SQL 2003 (W2k3 Server)
1 NAS (W2K3 Appliance Server)
1 Exchange 2003 (W2K3 Server)

All backed up by NT backup - despite the many arguments I've had, they won't give me the money I need to implement a proper solution, I look forward to the day that it all goes wrong so I can say 'I told you so' although it'll still be my fault in their eyes I'm sure...

Management here are a bunch of numpties sadly. I've tried everyway I can think of under the sun to get them to give me a budget here, its a joke really - especially from a 16 million a year turn over company.  We've just been bought out by another company, combined we're now looking at 30 million a year and I.T. for the group is going to fall under my control, so hopefully things will change - I have a few prequesits for them before I pick up those reigns...

Linking everything together and pushing the ERP application I've developed out accross the group is going to cost money, if it comes to it I'll be hiding a backup solution within that cost.

Running on NT backup they are asking for trouble.  How do you manage to back up Exchange with this?  What about flushing the logs for example?

At work, I use Backup Exec so have never tried the NT backup with exchange.  Company was not keen on my backup solution, relying on an out of date copy of Arcserve (which I hated) and a DDS4 drive that was on it's last legs.  I just placed the order for what I wanted when no one was looking and the FD was out of the office on holiday so did not see the invoice..........

Sorry guys, that is about 30 stratospheres above my head!

Hardest thing I had to do was remember to put the backup paper the right way round - thats carbon paper in a manual typewriter!

The biggest advance was when they managed to finally put Tippex onto the small paper sheets rather than the clogged brush thing every office had back then.