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[TheBoy]

The iPhone has a poor reception. Vodafone have (mostly) abysmal UK coverage. iPhone + Vodafone = noPhone

I don't know where they've been going wrong recently. (Well, actually, I do. I think it started with a recruitment policy borrowed from Kwik Fitup.  ).

Kevin

If I were cynical, I would say they pride themselves on their poor network and the upselling capability it produces (as they are the only network, AFAIK, selling femtocells for home)

[Kevin Wood]

If I were cynical, I would say they pride themselves on their poor network and the upselling capability it produces (as they are the only network, AFAIK, selling femtocells for home)

Yep. You've got to hand it to them. They've a reason to be proud. Who else could make that one fly? Charge extra for a device that allows you (and, potentially other mugs subscribers) to use a resource that you're already paying for to improve another resource that you're already paying for but not receiving.

Kevin

[TheBoy]

If I were cynical, I would say they pride themselves on their poor network and the upselling capability it produces (as they are the only network, AFAIK, selling femtocells for home)

Yep. You've got to hand it to them. They've a reason to be proud. Who else could make that one fly? Charge extra for a device that allows you (and, potentially other mugs subscribers) to use a resource that you're already paying for to improve another resource that you're already paying for but not receiving.

Kevin

I think they may have hung up on me when I told them want they could do with their box (under its previous name, before they rebranded it with its current name, in an attempt, I suspect, to make it seem like a new idea/device).

[CaptainZok]

If I were cynical, I would say they pride themselves on their poor network and the upselling capability it produces (as they are the only network, AFAIK, selling femtocells for home)

Yep. You've got to hand it to them. They've a reason to be proud. Who else could make that one fly? Charge extra for a device that allows you (and, potentially other mugs subscribers) to use a resource that you're already paying for to improve another resource that you're already paying for but not receiving.

Kevin

I think they may have hung up on me when I told them want they could do with their box (under its previous name, before they rebranded it with its current name, in an attempt, I suspect, to make it seem like a new idea/device).

I hope you told them to file off the sharp edges and apply vaseline first.

[TheBoy]

If I were cynical, I would say they pride themselves on their poor network and the upselling capability it produces (as they are the only network, AFAIK, selling femtocells for home)

Yep. You've got to hand it to them. They've a reason to be proud. Who else could make that one fly? Charge extra for a device that allows you (and, potentially other mugs subscribers) to use a resource that you're already paying for to improve another resource that you're already paying for but not receiving.

Kevin

I think they may have hung up on me when I told them want they could do with their box (under its previous name, before they rebranded it with its current name, in an attempt, I suspect, to make it seem like a new idea/device).

I hope you told them to file off the sharp edges and apply vaseline first.

I didn't get that far before I was talking to an NU tone

[Marks DTM Calib]

I have an SE Experia X10 pro mini (I need a small and fairly tough phone).

But to be honest, Android phones are all pretty similar.

Loads of useless apps to, just like the G-phone 

Now I hate the mini pro I have, after 2 days its gone back in the draw and gone back to my Nokia E75. Think I just cannot get on with android rather than the phone itself.

My other phone is a 3GS and have to say now i do quite like it, when i first got a 3G i was far from impressed, but once the software was updated to enable cut and pasting etc it changed the phone completely and thats why i stuck with the 3GS.

I have had a play with various HTC smartphones but the next choice will be an iPhone 4, unless Nokia make another 9300/ E90 type phone that is 9300 sized 

I get on great with mine.

Its small and tough (sadly the iphones are far from tough....or small) but I am pretty quick at being able to adapt to different systems.

Android has been rock soldi for me, no complaints at all with it.

But I want a phone, not shed loads of pointless apps (although I do have a few of those  ), email, some basic web useage and texting plus an avergae camera.

Hence it ticks all the boxes 

[Turk]

Orange have offered me a HTC Desire HD, with 600 cross network mins, unlimited text (I sent 49 last month ), and 500Mb internet for £20pm.

'3' offered a HTC Wildfire with 500 cross network mins, 5000 texts, 5000 mins to another '3' phone, 1 Gig internet, free voicemail, free Skype and free MSN for £20pm.

That's not a bad deal from '3'.
Ok, the HTC Wildfire is no 'HTC Desire HD', but it's still a very nice unit as an introduction to the world of 'Smartphones'.

Having said that, the 'Desire HD' deal from Orange is none to shabby either, and that's a serious piece of Smartphone.

 

[tunnie]

i'd go for the Desire over the Wildfire, its a much better handset. If you want to get to grips with smartphones, thats the one. The Wildfire has a very poor screen resolution, and generally i found it not very nice to use.

Desire has a screen to rival iPhone 4 

[Lazydocker]

Orange have offered me a HTC Desire HD, with 600 cross network mins, unlimited text (I sent 49 last month ), and 500Mb internet for £20pm.

'3' offered a HTC Wildfire with 500 cross network mins, 5000 texts, 5000 mins to another '3' phone, 1 Gig internet, free voicemail, free Skype and free MSN for £20pm.

That's not a bad deal from '3'.
Ok, the HTC Wildfire is no 'HTC Desire HD', but it's still a very nice unit as an introduction to the world of 'Smartphones'.

Having said that, the 'Desire HD' deal from Orange is none to shabby either, and that's a serious piece of Smartphone.

 

3 do the desire HD... Push them and they'll better the Orange deal

Incidentally, the network coverage on 3 is still advancing rapidly but I get a signal most places (except at home ) and normally when there is a signal it is 3g

[henryd]

I was on three and found signal strength to be very good,now with orange (better deal) and not so good as three but much better than vodafone and t-mobile(although t-mobile should be ok now that orange has teamed up with them)

[TheBoy]

I was on three and found signal strength to be very good,now with orange (better deal) and not so good as three but much better than vodafone and t-mobile(although t-mobile should be ok now that orange has teamed up with them)

Remember, with EverythingEverywhere (Orange/TMobile), its a ROAM not a select best signal. Important difference in usability

[cem_devecioglu]

finally I ended up with samsung wave 8500..

3g is ok (although not everywhere) but navigation is slow in getting position