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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

whats a knee trembler uncle opti :question

I always thought it was doing a cambelt on a Facelift Omega

Almost Pete.......reaching across to replace  an Omega cambelt rewards  you with a double knee-trembler and arse twitcher combined.....

[cleggy]

Someone mentioned earlier that their Grand Parent had a child at 15-16 yrs.. thing is, then they would have had to look after the child and pay their own way... Now it seems so cool to have a baby as they can even have someone to baby sit whilst they attend school 


My daughters even have sex education at school which although some may laugh I think is just condoning it...not sure where it has gone wrong but people Morals are all to Cock in my view


PERHAPS THIS IS THE PROBLEM!

[Varche]

My life mantra of

"I blame it on the parents" which fits a lot of modern ills certainly fits here!!   

[cleggy]

My life mantra of

"I blame it on the parents" which fits a lot of modern ills certainly fits here!!   

My kids blame me.
One's an IT consultant, ones an Accountant getting married this year to a girl whos parents own an estate in Yorkshire, ones an Electrician (mind you he was a dad at 17, and is paying child support for the next 10 years at least), and the youngest is at college.
Just where did I go wrong !

[sotmh]

Apart from all thats been said by PF and LZ.  Thinking on the rights and wrongs of early age child expectancy, throughout time and in each sociey there were definite reasons for seeing it beneficial to have children young. 

There were the reason for repopulation as lizzie says, also the mortality rate.  The latter of which was beccause life saving medicine was not at the advanced stage as it is now or were not invented.

The large number of child expectancies to families in "slums" was I believe due to lack of suitable family planning/contraception compared to "modern society". By the same turn even if concious decison to have many children to offset llikelyhood of a couple dieing I do not think that large numbers were decided upon by many families.  It was more likely the situation they found themselves in.
During the 60's, with it being freely available, it made it far easier for inhibitions to be thrown off without fear of the consequences.

Relating to bygone centuries, royalties across the world and those of noble houses, for political expediency married extremely young girls.  The majority of which was for peace and land ownership.  I believe the most famous of whom was King Solomon and then possibly comes Henry eighth just because of what he wanted and we know what happened when he did not get his own selfish way.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Apart from all thats been said by PF and LZ.  Thinking on the rights and wrongs of early age child expectancy, throughout time and in each sociey there were definite reasons for seeing it beneficial to have children young. 

There were the reason for repopulation as lizzie says, also the mortality rate.  The latter of which was beccause life saving medicine was not at the advanced stage as it is now or were not invented.

The large number of child expectancies to families in "slums" was I believe due to lack of suitable family planning/contraception compared to "modern society". By the same turn even if concious decison to have many children to offset llikelyhood of a couple dieing I do not think that large numbers were decided upon by many families.  It was more likely the situation they found themselves in.
During the 60's, with it being freely available, it made it far easier for inhibitions to be thrown off without fear of the consequences.

Relating to bygone centuries, royalties across the world and those of noble houses, for political expediency married extremely young girls.  The majority of which was for peace and land ownership.  I believe the most famous of whom was King Solomon and then possibly comes Henry eighth just because of what he wanted and we know what happened when he did not get his own selfish way.

All spot on Sotmh, and in the case of Henry VIII, as with all Kings, he was under enormous pressure to produce a strong male heir.  The irony was of course he produced through Anne Boleyn Princess Elizabeth, who would becomes England's strongest, most detirmined, resolute, and purely the best monach in the countries history as Queen Elizabeth 1 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

[sotmh]

Thanks LZ.  I see HV111 as either impatient or just because he was a monarch felt he could do whatever he liked.

I suppose when we have the benefit of reviewing and having current knowledge, it's easy for me to say that any of the other queens could have given him the so desired heir given a little time, and who is to say any of the projeny would not have been as strong as QE1.

By the same token there are some women who have the biologial disposition to have only children of the same sex.  This could have been even more stressfull to him if 5/6 were all girls  . But my muse is maybe QE1 was needed for the time to come.   

[V6 CDX-er]

With a lot of MILFs

Yeah it's shameful really, I couldn't imagine having kids during my early twenties never mind as a young teenager.

Problem is though that the benefit money received acts as an incentive for some teenagers.

Bingo!

I was 33 and the wife was 29 (again, for the third year running  ), when we had a child, and we still didn't really 'feel' ready enough, either financially or mentally old enough.

How can you be a good parent at 12-14 year old? How can you have the maturity to do a good job? Have the wisdom and experiance to pass on to your child?

Whilstever it pays to breed, (free council house init), this problem will only continue to manifest.

The country is breaked. Socially, morally destroyed. What we need is a leader with some real balls, not some wet drip socialist in a blue tie that we have at the moment. Someone who makes Lady T look like the Mother Teresa, as whilstever failure is rewarded with free housing and benifits, the longer and bigger this problem will become.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Thanks LZ.  I see HV111 as either impatient or just because he was a monarch felt he could do whatever he liked.

I suppose when we have the benefit of reviewing and having current knowledge, it's easy for me to say that any of the other queens could have given him the so desired heir given a little time, and who is to say any of the projeny would not have been as strong as QE1.

By the same token there are some women who have the biologial disposition to have only children of the same sex.  This could have been even more stressfull to him if 5/6 were all girls  . But my muse is maybe QE1 was needed for the time to come.   

Ah, but that is what forms counter factual history, but it was pure fate that Elizabeth would be who she was and set the course of English, along with British history


She was considered an illegitimate child and adult, so who knows what the baby of your local 12 year old girl will be one day!

[sotmh]

How can you be a good parent at 12-14 year old? How can you have the maturity to do a good job? Have the wisdom and experiance to pass on to your child?

Whilstever it pays to breed, (free council house init), this problem will only continue to manifest.

You can't say fairer than that.  However, there are many societies who do not have the social welfare structure as we do but it matters not to their citizen  as they have no problem of producing children at a high rate.

[sotmh]

so who knows what the baby of your local 12 year old girl will be one day!     



Mah Baker, Bonnie. As some of the girls are outdoing the boys where they were once leading.  Its only a matter of time