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Re: lpg/certificate/insurance
« Reply #15 on: 14 May 2009, 12:38:33 »

PS Anyone know of a birmingham/midlands based place to get a certificate?

I've been running my JamesV6CDX installed system for nearly 12 months and as insurance renewal isn't far away think a cert will be likely! (Last year as all I did was swap cars on the policy, they didn't seem fussed)
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« Reply #16 on: 14 May 2009, 19:25:11 »

have a look here for nearest approved installer.
http://www.drivelpg.co.uk
Hope the link works.
Edit yep works, link on the right above list of lpg petrol stations. :-)
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« Reply #17 on: 14 May 2009, 19:48:25 »

Esure stung me for an extra £80 on top of the online quote but never asked for a certificate! due at the end of the month so hope they dont as I aint got one >:(
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« Reply #18 on: 14 May 2009, 19:56:15 »

Unless they're considerably cheaper I wouldn't use them. I refuse to pay a premium for LPG converted cars when they don't pay out the extra for a kit without a big fight, if at all!!!
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Re: lpg/certificate/insurance
« Reply #19 on: 14 May 2009, 20:28:49 »

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PS Anyone know of a birmingham/midlands based place to get a certificate?

I've been running my JamesV6CDX installed system for nearly 12 months and as insurance renewal isn't far away think a cert will be likely! (Last year as all I did was swap cars on the policy, they didn't seem fussed)

Knowing what I know now - I feel in order to pass cert - your LPG filler pipe will need another outer sleve. Absolutely no biggie at all but thought i'd mention it, seeing as I saw your post  :y


How's the gas running anyhoo?
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« Reply #20 on: 14 May 2009, 20:46:31 »

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PS Anyone know of a birmingham/midlands based place to get a certificate?

I've been running my JamesV6CDX installed system for nearly 12 months and as insurance renewal isn't far away think a cert will be likely! (Last year as all I did was swap cars on the policy, they didn't seem fussed)

Knowing what I know now - I feel in order to pass cert - your LPG filler pipe will need another outer sleve. Absolutely no biggie at all but thought i'd mention it, seeing as I saw your post  :y


How's the gas running anyhoo?

Hi James, thanks for the info! the old barge is running mostly fine, gas wise anyway. Occasionally it says it's empty when it's not, and sometimes beeps for empty when nearly full. but a quick restart and it's fine!

got a few bits to tidy up here and there, but it's been a great load lugger.

I have been thinking of getting in touch with you actually too, how's the mobile mechanic business going? I noticed the website's changed a tad... :-/
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« Reply #21 on: 14 May 2009, 20:51:15 »

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PS Anyone know of a birmingham/midlands based place to get a certificate?

I've been running my JamesV6CDX installed system for nearly 12 months and as insurance renewal isn't far away think a cert will be likely! (Last year as all I did was swap cars on the policy, they didn't seem fussed)

Knowing what I know now - I feel in order to pass cert - your LPG filler pipe will need another outer sleve. Absolutely no biggie at all but thought i'd mention it, seeing as I saw your post  :y


How's the gas running anyhoo?

Hi James, thanks for the info! the old barge is running mostly fine, gas wise anyway. Occasionally it says it's empty when it's not, and sometimes beeps for empty when nearly full. but a quick restart and it's fine!

got a few bits to tidy up here and there, but it's been a great load lugger.

I have been thinking of getting in touch with you actually too, how's the mobile mechanic business going? I noticed the website's changed a tad... :-/

I'm not routinely doing mechanics for reasons stated - however I'm happy to help out previous mates I've worked for - and this includes you.  :y

If ever you sell the old girl, please do let me know before you advertise her  :y
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« Reply #22 on: 16 May 2009, 12:31:41 »

Hmmm --- before I rip out my LPG system .... GNU is registered at DVLA as dual fuel ( never seen any form of certificate )  Does this mean I am likely to get away with it ?  Technically ( and probably stretching a point) there are no modifications to declare because the vehicle is "as registered"  ::)

Would prefer not to discuss the niceties with my insurers as I have no wish to open a can of worms with them !
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« Reply #23 on: 16 May 2009, 12:35:14 »

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Hmmm --- before I rip out my LPG system .... GNU is registered at DVLA as dual fuel ( never seen any form of certificate )  Does this mean I am likely to get away with it ?  Technically ( and probably stretching a point) there are no modifications to declare because the vehicle is "as registered"  ::)

Would prefer not to discuss the niceties with my insurers as I have no wish to open a can of worms with them !

Depends who your insurer is... AFAIK Most will accept it being declared on the log book as OK but some are a bit funny ::) ::)

[edit]Not informing them is a sticky one though as it has been modified away from factory standard :-/ :-/ :-/[/edit]
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« Reply #24 on: 16 May 2009, 12:44:53 »

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Hmmm --- before I rip out my LPG system .... GNU is registered at DVLA as dual fuel ( never seen any form of certificate )  Does this mean I am likely to get away with it ?  Technically ( and probably stretching a point) there are no modifications to declare because the vehicle is "as registered"  ::)

Would prefer not to discuss the niceties with my insurers as I have no wish to open a can of worms with them !

Depends who your insurer is... AFAIK Most will accept it being declared on the log book as OK but some are a bit funny ::) ::)

[edit]Not informing them is a sticky one though as it has been modified away from factory standard :-/ :-/ :-/[/edit]

Direct Line at the mo. They didn't want (or didn't mention) a cert needed when I insured my (now defunct) LPG'd Voyager with them
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« Reply #25 on: 16 May 2009, 12:54:58 »

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Hmmm --- before I rip out my LPG system .... GNU is registered at DVLA as dual fuel ( never seen any form of certificate )  Does this mean I am likely to get away with it ?  Technically ( and probably stretching a point) there are no modifications to declare because the vehicle is "as registered"  ::)

Would prefer not to discuss the niceties with my insurers as I have no wish to open a can of worms with them !

Depends who your insurer is... AFAIK Most will accept it being declared on the log book as OK but some are a bit funny ::) ::)

[edit]Not informing them is a sticky one though as it has been modified away from factory standard :-/ :-/ :-/[/edit]

Direct Line at the mo. They didn't want (or didn't mention) a cert needed when I insured my (now defunct) LPG'd Voyager with them

I think, and don't quote me on this, that if the DVLA has it registered as Dual Fuel they are happy :y :y :y
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« Reply #26 on: 16 May 2009, 14:00:59 »

Having spoken to Tailo about this and tried some of his recommended insurance companys that used not to require a cert at all. Its now obvious that the situation has changed over the last year or so, as each and every one of Tailos suggestions now require an approved cert. And will not convert a quote to a policy without one, the system will not allow it, computer says no, and thats that.

Tailo himself told me the the lpga have been lobbying the insurance companys to this effect. There is no reason to assume what was the case 6 months ago is the case today. If your insurance company doesnt know of your install they cant inform you of any rule changes that may affect you.

Should add that my experience is with new business policys, but this would suggest that you could be voiding your  insurance if not declared on your old policy. I would suggest at the very least an anonymous phone call to your company to find out the situation.

Re certs, and putting the price to one side for a minute, it is worth having a trained eye look over your system imho. Some interesting points have come to light on mine, and some rather picky it has to be said, but you really want to be belt and braces when it comes to gas.

On both issues of insurance and certifying your install, i dont think a "head in sand" approach is wise. Find out the situation and get stuff in writing.
Cover your arse basickly. May cost a few quid though.

Cant help think this area is a bit of a let down on behalf of Moto Gas. Its all very well saying the lpga dont like diy installs and are being awkward and over charging. May well be. But matters not. These are hoops we are legally obliged to jump through, and until last week is the first i had heard of it from Moto Gas. Yes the install guide mentions it briefly but no support from Moto Gas them selfs as they dont have approved certification in place. Bit poor imho.

Still, thanks to guys on here, my install is going in the right direction. :-)


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« Reply #27 on: 16 May 2009, 14:06:36 »

I know Motogas are trying to push the paperwork through for LPGA certification but are just being held back by the LPGA. The plan was to include a certificate in the kit price, after you've visited him for an inspection :y :y :y

Swifcover don't require a certificate... They just state it has to be professionally installed (I used to earn a living as a mechanic so that's good enough for me!)

It's a shame as I haven't had a problem for the last 4 years getting cover for LPG cars without certification ::) ::)

I take it this is all resolved for you now Chris? And, if you don't mind me asking, what got picked up at the inspection?
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« Reply #28 on: 16 May 2009, 14:10:22 »

Just had a shufty around their web site -- gives no mention of LPG at all    :(

Can't really phone in case they nullify my present insurance there and then !!!!!!  :-/
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« Reply #29 on: 16 May 2009, 14:16:15 »

Found this on Swiftcover Website when I was doing my insurance but can't seem to find anything similar on Direct Line :-/ :-/ :-/

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Will swiftcover insure a vehicle that has been modified for Liquid Petroleum Gas?

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Swiftcover will insure a vehicle that has been modified for Liquid Petroleum Gas. We do not however collect this information when you get a quote.

Although I did ring up and make them record the fact mine's LPG converted on the system just in case!
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