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Re: Towing
« Reply #15 on: 08 January 2011, 19:55:10 »

MTPLM is the Maximun Technically Permitted Legal Mass, not 'total'.

MAM is Maximum Authorised Mass (or 'total' mass) 

You are confusing apples and pears and getting oranges....   ;)
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Re: Towing
« Reply #16 on: 08 January 2011, 20:01:24 »

Its o k to pull it but think about if you get into problems and the van takes over the car, used to pull a 26ft van with a shogun van weight 1880kg still a bit scary at times, Go for the hotel cheaper after extra fuel costs,insurance,van purchase,site fees been there done that and grew out of the t shirt  :y :y
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Re: Towing
« Reply #17 on: 08 January 2011, 20:06:55 »

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MTPLM is the Maximun Technically Permitted Legal Mass, not 'total'.

MAM is Maximum Authorised Mass (or 'total' mass) 

You are confusing apples and pears and getting oranges....   ;)

I stand corrected my Celtic buddy! :-?
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Re: Towing
« Reply #18 on: 08 January 2011, 20:25:51 »

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MTPLM is the Maximun Technically Permitted Legal Mass, not 'total'.

MAM is Maximum Authorised Mass (or 'total' mass) 

You are confusing apples and pears and getting oranges....   ;)

I stand corrected my Celtic buddy! :-?

No probs B....   :y
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Re: Towing
« Reply #19 on: 08 January 2011, 20:45:05 »

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I certainly would not want to risk it.  I once saw a twin axle van "wag a large and heavy 4x4 right over the M6! :o :o :o

In addition a 2.0 in my opinion is not powerful enough to tow such a caravan:P :P

Driven sensibly Lizzie, our former 2.0 GLS Auto coped very well indeed, though you'll note that our 'vans were always within the afore-mentioned '85% ratio'.
As an aside, it returned 22mpg when towing - the same as both our subsequent TDs!


Mrs Sethsmate loved that car! ;)
(And it's still going strong four years later with it's second subsequent fellow railwayman owner!). :y
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Re: Towing
« Reply #20 on: 08 January 2011, 23:46:00 »

I did work out the towing weights for the Omega once.

http://www.cuddles.abelgratis.net/vauxhall.htm#omegas01

Implies 1700Kg for the 4 pots and up to 1850 for the V6.

I've towed right up to the limit for the 3.2, albeit a load without the huge wind loading of a mobile bedsit. Stability was no issue, stopping was no issue (we're taking about a braked trailer so it doesn't really impose too badly on the car braking system). I wouldn't fancy it with 4 pot power though. The 3.2 got a fair workout on the hills.

Remember to consider the maximum train weight. There isn't room for much load in the car (but any additional load should be there rather than in the caravan, obviously, as you want the car heavier than the load if possible).

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Re: Towing
« Reply #21 on: 09 January 2011, 13:14:01 »

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I certainly would not want to risk it.  I once saw a twin axle van "wag a large and heavy 4x4 right over the M6! :o :o :o

In addition a 2.0 in my opinion is not powerful enough to tow such a caravan:P :P

Driven sensibly Lizzie, our former 2.0 GLS Auto coped very well indeed, though you'll note that our 'vans were always within the afore-mentioned '85% ratio'.
As an aside, it returned 22mpg when towing - the same as both our subsequent TDs!


Mrs Sethsmate loved that car! ;)
(And it's still going strong four years later with it's second subsequent fellow railwayman owner!). :y

4pots are much better than people think, thats why I use it as part of my towing services  ::)  8-)

I got accused of towing a dead V6 too fast  :o  ;D
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Re: Towing
« Reply #22 on: 10 January 2011, 16:50:04 »

The towing limit for my 2.2 estate is  max 1700kg tow ball limit 75kg so the van is a little over the limit
My van is 1550 laden and just about tows it
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Re: Towing
« Reply #23 on: 11 January 2011, 07:17:49 »

Been towing a Lunar Clubman 500/5 for a while now. My mig quite happily pulls it along without any problems!
Laden with gear & family, it returns 22mpg, not bad for a 10yr V6!   :y
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Re: Towing
« Reply #24 on: 11 January 2011, 12:05:51 »

2.0s are not that bad, you will be able to keep up and not hold people up but you will never get out of sports mode, and will have to use decent petrol eg Shell - this makes a huge difference - proven with 2.0CD on the M5.

V6s are a lot more relaxed and better on hills, and also like top gear more.
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Re: Towing
« Reply #25 on: 11 January 2011, 12:32:24 »

Experienced similar meself, especially on the flat sections of the M5 crossing the Somerset Levels.
Whilst it was possible to get the 'box to 'lock-up' in top gear, the slightest turbulence from, say, an overtaking lorry, would immediately prompt a down-shift. This obviously upped the engine revs, and increased fuel consumption. There was no way of 'holding' the 'box in top gear, though if I'm correct, a Tech2 session can re-map the gearbox ECU to overcome this.

This was my only issue whilst towing with a 2.0 auto Omega, and as I've previously replied, found it to be quite a happy tow-car generally.
Obviously, a V6 would have more grunt! 

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Re: Towing
« Reply #26 on: 11 January 2011, 12:53:15 »

best towcar ive had for power and rather stable too was the ole v6 but i do like my 4x4,nice and high big and safe excellent with a van on the back but the autobox only needs a fly to land on my right foot and it drops a gear and screams its shocking till you get a nice rolling speed
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