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Towing
« on: 08 January 2011, 15:53:58 »

Hi has anyone towed with a 2.lt Auto 99 plate van is a Avondale Landranger 640 twin wheeler aprox 1690 kgs full up
and thanks to all for the help upto now
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Re: Towing
« Reply #1 on: 08 January 2011, 15:58:08 »

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Hi has anyone towed with a 2.lt Auto 99 plate van is a Avondale Landranger 640 twin wheeler aprox 1690 kgs full up
and thanks to all for the help upto now
 ;) ::)

Without looking specifically, I'd have thought that a 1700kg would be a bit heavy for an Omega, especially a 2.0 litre. It's not the pulling you need to be aware of, it's stopping it!  :y
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Re: Towing
« Reply #2 on: 08 January 2011, 15:59:20 »

I've towed for a number of years and think you may struggle power wise towing the landranger.

They are a heavy caravan.

I'd think twice about pulling it with my 3.0 estate.

Stopping could be a problem!


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Re: Towing
« Reply #3 on: 08 January 2011, 16:05:13 »

have you checked what your car will pull cos i think your van unladen is right on the llimit,its not that it wouldnt pull it though maybe underpowered and you would see yer car temp reach heights its never seen before but its just not heavy enough..although twin axles are more stable on the road its the stopping i would be scared of,when i had my v6 there was many twins out there it would pull but imho i wouldnt have done it
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Re: Towing
« Reply #4 on: 08 January 2011, 16:27:57 »

Your car will tow a caravan of the correct maximum authorised mass with no problem.

Recommended MAM of the caravan is no more than 85% of the car's MAM - and I'm pretty sure that the law specifically states that the caravan cannot be heavier than the towing vehicle.

You could end up with the 'tail wagging the dog', as well as your insurance being invalid.

We tow a Bailey Ranger 500/5, and that's just under the Omega's capabilities using the '85% ratio' - that Landranger's simply too heavy for the car, although I don't doubt that it will physically pull it! 
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Re: Towing
« Reply #5 on: 08 January 2011, 16:31:33 »

Thank to all leave the van use hotels
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Re: Towing
« Reply #6 on: 08 January 2011, 19:09:29 »

I tow a 600 swift challenger with my 2.5 with no problems, actually it tows better than my old rangie.
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Re: Towing
« Reply #7 on: 08 January 2011, 19:14:29 »

Nige/Entwood is the man who's up to date with MAMs,  kerbweights, gross weights and another set of letters that has completely escaped me .......  ::) :y :y
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Re: Towing
« Reply #8 on: 08 January 2011, 19:22:29 »

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Your car will tow a caravan of the correct maximum authorised mass with no problem.

Recommended MAM of the caravan is no more than 85% of the car's MAM - and I'm pretty sure that the law specifically states that the caravan cannot be heavier than the towing vehicle.

You could end up with the 'tail wagging the dog', as well as your insurance being invalid.

We tow a Bailey Ranger 500/5, and that's just under the Omega's capabilities using the '85% ratio' - that Landranger's simply too heavy for the car, although I don't doubt that it will physically pull it! 

Understand everything you have written there B but i thought that the 85% of the cars weight was something the Caravan Club introduced some years ago. Pretty sure that it is ok to tow the same weight.
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Re: Towing
« Reply #9 on: 08 January 2011, 19:28:07 »

It's a Carvan Club 'recommendation' I believe. I don't think you're breaking the law to be over the 85%, just not following their recommendation which wouldn't be the best idea as you'll discover when you try to stop it!

We tow a 1200 single axle (unladen) with the DTi estate without a problem - infact it's effortless, but then we only take the caravan down to Newquay at Easter and collect it in October, can;t be bothered dragging the thing around behind us every trip!

How does the Rangie tow LK?
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Re: Towing
« Reply #10 on: 08 January 2011, 19:30:19 »

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Understand everything you have written there B but i thought that the 85% of the cars weight was something the Caravan Club introduced some years ago. Pretty sure that it is ok to tow the same weight.

It is just a recommendation/guide line for novice tow-ers.  :y
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Re: Towing
« Reply #11 on: 08 January 2011, 19:31:53 »

'MAM' is the maximum authorised mass.
'MTPLM' is the maximum total permitted laden mass.
Defined by the caravan manufacturer, they should not be confused with the 'unladen' weight of the 'van - which may well be compatible with an Omega.

Keep to the '85%' caravan-to-car ratio, and you'll be fine.


All our Omegas have been excellent tow cars - and all our 'vans have been bought with the aforementioned figures in mind.
That's one reason why we chose the Ranger 500/5 - as I would've dearly loved a Pageant Auvergne.
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We've not had any braking/stability problems either - even with Mrs Sethsmate driving!
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Re: Towing
« Reply #12 on: 08 January 2011, 19:34:34 »

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'MTPLM' is the maximum total permitted laden mass ....

That's the one!  ::) ::) ;)
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Re: Towing
« Reply #13 on: 08 January 2011, 19:35:09 »

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Your car will tow a caravan of the correct maximum authorised mass with no problem.

Recommended MAM of the caravan is no more than 85% of the car's MAM - and I'm pretty sure that the law specifically states that the caravan cannot be heavier than the towing vehicle.

You could end up with the 'tail wagging the dog', as well as your insurance being invalid.

We tow a Bailey Ranger 500/5, and that's just under the Omega's capabilities using the '85% ratio' - that Landranger's simply too heavy for the car, although I don't doubt that it will physically pull it! 

Understand everything you have written there B but i thought that the 85% of the cars weight was something the Caravan Club introduced some years ago. Pretty sure that it is ok to tow the same weight.

Yes Daz, that's right - though the caravan's total weight, shouldn't exceed that of the Omega's.
'Tail wagging the dog' scenario and all that! (Law)
'85% caravan-to-car' ratio is a Caravan Club recommendation that's served us well over the years!
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Re: Towing
« Reply #14 on: 08 January 2011, 19:49:45 »

I certainly would not want to risk it.  I once saw a twin axle van "wag a large and heavy 4x4 right over the M6! :o :o :o

In addition a 2.0 in my opinion is not powerful enough to tow such a caravan:P :P
« Last Edit: 08 January 2011, 19:50:21 by Lizzie_Zoom »
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