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[PhilRich]

This is starting to do my head in now, Engine running push the rear fog lamps switch, light flashes once on the dash and it  latches a relay behind drivers air vent, you can now open the boot with the engine running, this condition seems to stay like this untill you switch the lights on and off or remove the key. Same deal with Headlights on the only difference is the Rear Fog Dash blub stays on, again boot  switch now works with the engine running.

Still no joy with volts getting to the rear Fogs though, trying to work out why the Police would wire up a system like this?, I know there was a Gun Cabinet in the boot behind the rear seats, because of the holes left, pressed marks on the carpet and a load of left over shells.

The Drivers rear fog lamp is wired separately which seems to disappear towards the dash area. Theres no fuse 28 its been disconnected (fog tail lamp), fuse 2 is in place and working and I seem to have fuse 8 in place (daytime running lights) with some additional wiring attached which dissapeers behind the dash?

?? 

Surely you can't/don't mean left over ammunition :-?

Nah !

probably been down to the beachCockles, mussels, limpets, my car is also full of shells !

 

What would they be doing down at Sarfend in a ARV? Mebe someone started a riot when the jellied eels ran out??

[zirk]

This is starting to do my head in now, Engine running push the rear fog lamps switch, light flashes once on the dash and it  latches a relay behind drivers air vent, you can now open the boot with the engine running, this condition seems to stay like this untill you switch the lights on and off or remove the key. Same deal with Headlights on the only difference is the Rear Fog Dash blub stays on, again boot  switch now works with the engine running.

Still no joy with volts getting to the rear Fogs though, trying to work out why the Police would wire up a system like this?, I know there was a Gun Cabinet in the boot behind the rear seats, because of the holes left, pressed marks on the carpet and a load of left over shells.

The Drivers rear fog lamp is wired separately which seems to disappear towards the dash area. Theres no fuse 28 its been disconnected (fog tail lamp), fuse 2 is in place and working and I seem to have fuse 8 in place (daytime running lights) with some additional wiring attached which dissapeers behind the dash?

?? 

Surely you can't/don't mean left over ammunition :-?

Yep, mostly fired, some not, the tips seem to be made of plastic with a hole and cross, look like 9mm or 380 short to me, not sure if there blank or for firing paint caps, but the inside of the car is absolutely covered in fluorescent Red and Blue splats all over the place.

Anyway bout my freekng Fog Lamps, reckon  someone's had this problem before!, come on spill the beans.

[damon80]

This is starting to do my head in now, Engine running push the rear fog lamps switch, light flashes once on the dash and it  latches a relay behind drivers air vent, you can now open the boot with the engine running, this condition seems to stay like this untill you switch the lights on and off or remove the key. Same deal with Headlights on the only difference is the Rear Fog Dash blub stays on, again boot  switch now works with the engine running.

Still no joy with volts getting to the rear Fogs though, trying to work out why the Police would wire up a system like this?, I know there was a Gun Cabinet in the boot behind the rear seats, because of the holes left, pressed marks on the carpet and a load of left over shells.

The Drivers rear fog lamp is wired separately which seems to disappear towards the dash area. Theres no fuse 28 its been disconnected (fog tail lamp), fuse 2 is in place and working and I seem to have fuse 8 in place (daytime running lights) with some additional wiring attached which dissapeers behind the dash?

?? 

Surely you can't/don't mean left over ammunition :-?

Yep, mostly fired, some not, the tips seem to be made of plastic with a hole and cross, look like 9mm or 380 short to me, not sure if there blank or for firing paint caps, but the inside of the car is absolutely covered in fluorescent Red and Blue splats all over the place.

Anyway bout my freekng Fog Lamps, reckon  someone's had this problem before!, come on spill the beans.

If you get caught in possession of those live rounds without a Firearms Licence with the relevant grant for that type/calibre of ammunition, it would not be good news for you...!  There is the risk that they may fall into the wrong hands.  You need to drop them off at your local police station, or phone your area's Firearms Licencing Unit, asap.

But moving on back to your question - my last ex-plod (white, was a marked car) had no probs whatsoever with the rear fogs.  But when I got this one (another ex-plod in Nocturno Blue - was an unmarked car), none of the rear fogs worked.  Sods law, I only found it out on the morning of its MOT...

Changed bulbs etc, but no joy.  I was expecting a really complex issue, but it was quite simple in my case (and hopefully yours too!).  Unplug the plug that goes into the rear fog-lamp bulb holderon the inside of the boot lid, and check the pins inside the plug. 

On mine, there was an excess of solder inside on the pins (where plod had obviously soldered another wire in - when it was decommissioned, they'd just cut their wiring off (which would have been for the Wig-Wags), and shoved the pins back into the plugs - excess solder and all.  So when the plug was connected to the bulb holder, it couldn't get a decent connection.

I just stripped the pins back out of the plug, heated them up with my soldering iron and cleaned all the excess solder and left-over Plod wiring off, let the pins cool down again, and then put them back into the plugs.  Job done!

Fingers crossed it does the job for you 

[zirk]

Hi Damon, thanks for your input. Yea used to be a Section 5 Firearms Licence holder, when all that was allowable, so yes I do understand your concerns  and rightly commented. Really dont fancy handing a bag of stuff into my local old bill shop and then spending the next 24 hours trying to explain where it all come from! Rekon they would strugle to convict on the outcome of the Car being explod, but dont fancy putting it to the test. 


On the bulb holder bit will have a butchers tomorrow, somethings seriusley not right with the current setup.

Chris.

[damon80]

Hi Damon, thanks for your input. Yea used to be a Section 5 Firearms Licence holder, when all that was allowable, so yes I do understand your concerns  and rightly commented. Really dont fancy handing a bag of stuff into my local old bill shop and then spending the next 24 hours trying to explain where it all come from! Rekon they would strugle to convict on the outcome of the Car being explod, but dont fancy putting it to the test. 

On the bulb holder bit will have a butchers tomorrow, somethings seriusley not right with the current setup.

Chris.

I gathered you were either an ex or current FAC holder given your knowledge of poss calibre  Understand your concern, but trust me - give your FLU a ring tomorrow.  They'll be more than understanding 

I'll admit it - I was bricking it when my fogs didn't work on the morning of its MOT, thought it'd end up being a right nightmare.  I wouldn't have normally thought of checking inside the plug, only I was looking to see if I could fit the fine prong extension thingy of my multi-meter inside to check for continuity, when I noticed the mess in there!

It may not be the case for yours, but got to be worth a check bud 

[zirk]

Having just spent most of the day on this, think Ive just sussed it, yep, going for quick beer now, before they shut

[Andy B]

Having just spent most of the day on this, think Ive just sussed it, yep, going for quick beer now, before they shut

you've no beerin the fridge?  :-?     
Glad you've (think you've) sorted it   

[zirk]

Thought I'd post some Pics of the of the two little culprits, The rear fog lamp wiring (Blue/Black) was intercepted by an additional pair Blue/Yellow and another thicker Blue/Black, which can now be seen discounted and hanging down in Pic 2, they were connected and hidden within the wiring loom under the rear wing location, The additional wiring together with another Blue/Yellow fed separately to the drivers side fog run to the front engine fuse box.

The last two pics are of the Boot Catch Mod relay connected behind the light switch module.

Although there's no Head Unit or MID in the Car (GLS Police Spec) the Car has a MID Stalk and Steering wheel controls, so, cant wait to see what they do when I get round to fitting a Stereo in!