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Oil Fired Central Heating Boiler
« on: 04 March 2012, 22:01:47 »

Right, as we seem to be a wealth of knowledge on here I'll ask away...

We have oil fired central heating with a 30ish year old Bosch Worcester Boiler... In the 7 years we've lived here it has only needed a good service and a pump.

I seem to have come into an abundance of contaminated fuel :-X ::) Petrol:Diesel mix, probably about 80:20, possibly even more petrol than that. Anyone know what I need to change to be able to burn it (if anything) or a safe ratio of this contaminated fuel to Kerosene (or any other fuel) ??? ???

I'm interested in the answers as it could easily save me a lot of money heating the house/water ;)

Just to add, I've spoken to several of the other guys who have oil fired heating and an abundance of contaminated fuel so I'm intrigued to hear what others think :y
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« Reply #1 on: 04 March 2012, 22:47:40 »

Kerosene is also called 28 second burning oil, I have know idea why and have had a few too many shandy's to find out why but I reckon you can guess what I'm thinking...........
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« Reply #2 on: 04 March 2012, 22:55:52 »

Kerosene is also called 28 second burning oil, I have know idea why and have had a few too many shandy's to find out why but I reckon you can guess what I'm thinking...........
It is indeed... The 28 second actually refers to how long it takes an object to drop through it though if I remember correctly :-\ :-\

Not sure I can guess what you're thinking though :-\ ???
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« Reply #3 on: 04 March 2012, 23:04:38 »

well I was thinking you just need to increase the viscosity of your abundance of contaminated fuel to that of kerosene. Petrol and diesel will burn as clean as kerosene so thats not a problem........its just what to mix it with??

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« Reply #4 on: 04 March 2012, 23:07:16 »

well I was thinking you just need to increase the viscosity of your abundance of contaminated fuel to that of kerosene. Petrol and diesel will burn as clean as kerosene so thats not a problem........its just what to mix it with??
A bit of used engine oil springs to mind (as I tend to have plenty of that too) as mine is still fairluy clean when I change it in the Omega :y :y
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Re: Oil Fired Central Heating Boiler
« Reply #5 on: 04 March 2012, 23:09:01 »

I am going back 30 years here when I used to work on Portable Industrial Heaters, not sure that the petrol mix is not too high...... :-\ :-\

Our Heaters were hired out to a variety of industrial users and the range, and quality, of fuel the used could vary a lot, we had technical figures for Gas Oil or Kerosene but in many cases it was tweak the pump pressure till you got the minimum / no smoke..... :D :D  Never knowingly had petrol in the equation though.... :-\ :-\
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« Reply #6 on: 04 March 2012, 23:11:40 »

well I was thinking you just need to increase the viscosity of your abundance of contaminated fuel to that of kerosene. Petrol and diesel will burn as clean as kerosene so thats not a problem........its just what to mix it with??
A bit of used engine oil springs to mind (as I tend to have plenty of that too) as mine is still fairluy clean when I change it in the Omega :y :y


hey you know exactly what i'm thinking now......

Have you thought about selling your Omega and buying a Russian T72 tank I think you can put any fuel you like in that........ :D
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Re: Oil Fired Central Heating Boiler
« Reply #7 on: 04 March 2012, 23:15:08 »

My worry would be the volatility of the petrol element ....  :(

Kerosene/fuel oil/diesel all burn in their "liquid" state, be it using a wick or an atomiser to give small liquid droplets.

Petrol burns as a vapour, and that vapour in a confined space becomes explosive.

I accept that once "lit" the vapours will burn off continuously, however your boiler does not run continuously..... so BEFORE it is lit there could well be a build up of petrol vapour, when the igniter goes if that explodes instead of simply burning under control ....... methinks you have a major problem ....

Might well be a way around it, but I would be exercising EXTREME caution .....  :(
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« Reply #8 on: 04 March 2012, 23:18:30 »

My worry would be the volatility of the petrol element ....  :(

Kerosene/fuel oil/diesel all burn in their "liquid" state, be it using a wick or an atomiser to give small liquid droplets.

Petrol burns as a vapour, and that vapour in a confined space becomes explosive.

I accept that once "lit" the vapours will burn off continuously, however your boiler does not run continuously..... so BEFORE it is lit there could well be a build up of petrol vapour, when the igniter goes if that explodes instead of simply burning under control ....... methinks you have a major problem ....

Might well be a way around it, but I would be exercising EXTREME caution .....  :(

I reckon thats good advice....how much of this stuff have you got????
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« Reply #9 on: 04 March 2012, 23:23:13 »

My worry would be the volatility of the petrol element ....  :(

Kerosene/fuel oil/diesel all burn in their "liquid" state, be it using a wick or an atomiser to give small liquid droplets.

Petrol burns as a vapour, and that vapour in a confined space becomes explosive.

I accept that once "lit" the vapours will burn off continuously, however your boiler does not run continuously..... so BEFORE it is lit there could well be a build up of petrol vapour, when the igniter goes if that explodes instead of simply burning under control ....... methinks you have a major problem ....

Might well be a way around it, but I would be exercising EXTREME caution .....  :(

I reckon thats good advice....how much of this stuff have you got????

Somewhere in the region of 2000L per month :-X ::)
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Re: Oil Fired Central Heating Boiler
« Reply #10 on: 04 March 2012, 23:24:46 »

My worry would be the volatility of the petrol element ....  :(

Kerosene/fuel oil/diesel all burn in their "liquid" state, be it using a wick or an atomiser to give small liquid droplets.

Petrol burns as a vapour, and that vapour in a confined space becomes explosive.

I accept that once "lit" the vapours will burn off continuously, however your boiler does not run continuously..... so BEFORE it is lit there could well be a build up of petrol vapour, when the igniter goes if that explodes instead of simply burning under control ....... methinks you have a major problem ....

Might well be a way around it, but I would be exercising EXTREME caution .....  :(

I'll pass on what I have gleaned from the other guys when more people have had a chance to comment... There are a surprising number of us "Fuel Doctors" who live in an area that is "off grid" as far as gas goes
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« Reply #11 on: 04 March 2012, 23:34:21 »

I'm with Entwood and reckon the petrol content is too high.... BOOOOOOM!!!  :o ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 04 March 2012, 23:35:01 »

Not sure what you mean by that but I'm totally off the grid as far as gas goes and if I had access to 2000Ltrs of that stuff a month I would be finding a way to put it through my boiler..........
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Re: Oil Fired Central Heating Boiler
« Reply #13 on: 04 March 2012, 23:36:34 »

I'm with Entwood and reckon the petrol content is too high.... BOOOOOOM!!!  :o ;)

I said it first...... :( :( :(
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Re: Oil Fired Central Heating Boiler
« Reply #14 on: 04 March 2012, 23:38:22 »

Not sure what you mean by that but I'm totally off the grid as far as gas goes and if I had access to 2000Ltrs of that stuff a month I would be finding a way to put it through my boiler..........

I would be finding a way of putting it through the Jeep...........LD....will it burn in a diesel?
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