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Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« on: 05 March 2012, 11:08:54 »

Some here may find this familiar...

Car surplus to requirements, so has been un insured for a while, tax recently expired. Need to move it 40miles.

Insure and tax it. Drive it away. Expensive.

Or tow/trailer it. I don't have a vehicle big enough to tow, so Question here is do I have the required license to drive a flatbed if I could find one to hire? Bike and car license cover it?
Car is approaching two ton in weight.

Further thought, it's a private sale, would it be easier for the owner to insure it temporarily, just to get it taxed for 6months? Then cancel the insurance once taxed? Not aware if an Mot issue, presume Mot in place. I can drive it away then. Not sure if sorned though.
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #1 on: 05 March 2012, 11:13:50 »

If you passed your car test before 1997 you can drive up to 7.5 ton GVW  :y or do you know anyone with trade plates then no need to tax
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #2 on: 05 March 2012, 12:04:10 »

How heavy is the vehicle? EDIT: Please read the manual

As said, old gits middle aged folk like us will have the 7.5 tonne entitlement, so ought to be able to drive a vehicle that will uplift it if it's a "normal" sized car. Not if it's a steam loco, admittedly.
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #3 on: 05 March 2012, 12:07:19 »

How heavy is the vehicle? EDIT: Please read the manual

As said, old gits middle aged folk like us will have the 7.5 tonne entitlement, so ought to be able to drive a vehicle that will uplift it if it's a "normal" sized car. Not if it's a steam loco, admittedly.

Unless its a small transporter that the car may well fit onto but may well exceed the GVW if the car weighs 2 tonnes
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #4 on: 05 March 2012, 12:12:48 »

Would have thought Driver with Trade Plates for a couple of hours would be the cheapest (beer tokens) option.
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #5 on: 05 March 2012, 12:38:56 »

Quick call to a self drive car transport hire firm reveals I would be legal. But the omega exceeds thier load limit of 1.5tons.
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #6 on: 05 March 2012, 12:39:44 »

couldn't you tow it with your mig with an a frame ??
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #7 on: 05 March 2012, 12:47:30 »

couldn't you tow it with your mig with an a frame ??

Car needs to be road legal for that.
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #8 on: 05 March 2012, 12:50:13 »



Further thought, it's a private sale, would it be easier for the owner to insure it temporarily, just to get it taxed for 6months? Then cancel the insurance once taxed?

new continuous insurance rule might put kybosh on that
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #9 on: 05 March 2012, 12:52:51 »

yeah your right kevin a was just reading a thread on pistonheads about it..funny how i see 4x4's towing other 4x4 on a frames going to a place called frickley for some off road fun..
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #10 on: 05 March 2012, 12:55:55 »

yeah your right kevin a was just reading a thread on pistonheads about it..funny how i see 4x4's towing other 4x4 on a frames going to a place called frickley for some off road fun..

Yes.. Not saying it doesn't happen. ::) It's the worst combination, IMHO. A 2 tonne unbraked trailer. :o

Personally, having experienced haw well an Omega tows at the weight limit, I'd rather chuck it on a Brian James and take a risk on someone spotting it's overweight. At least I know I can stop the combination if something goes wrong.
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #11 on: 05 March 2012, 13:01:41 »

couldn't you tow it with your mig with an a frame ??

Car needs to be road legal for that.
yes if the cars wheels are on the road, it has to be legal. Towed or not, makes no odds.
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #12 on: 05 March 2012, 13:02:37 »

Quick call to a self drive car transport hire firm reveals I would be legal. But the omega exceeds thier load limit of 1.5tons.

That would've been a transit size flat bed which is 3.5 ton GVW, you need a cargo/LDV 45 size but without a digital tachograph
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #13 on: 05 March 2012, 13:04:12 »

just read a thread that said if u lift the front wheels like on a towing dolly then u don't have to be legal....but then u fall fowl of the 750kg /unbraked load law
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Re: Car transporter (moving an un taxed vehicle)
« Reply #14 on: 05 March 2012, 13:22:23 »

Further thought, it's a private sale, would it be easier for the owner to insure it temporarily, just to get it taxed for 6months? Then cancel the insurance once taxed? Not aware if an Mot issue, presume Mot in place. I can drive it away then. Not sure if sorned though.

That's how I just picked up the Jag - although I heard some post offices will refuse to tax a car on temporary insurance cover so I insured it for 12 months, sent the seller the PDF insurance cert, he went off and taxed it and I turned up the next day with the price of the car + price of the tax and drove it home.

Now I'll cancel the insurance and cash in the tax..

Almost certainly cheaper - even at the full cost of the tax - than hiring a flat bed big enough to carry a 2 tonne car.
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