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Nickbat was right and knows his chickens!
« on: 17 March 2012, 14:50:35 »

You were right about the Uk changing over to more chicken friendly(but still hideously constricted in my view) cages. We rushed into it and have met the deadline. 13 out of 27 EU countries didn't. Means there will be an egg shortage and no doubt as a result price increase as we can't import from the EU in case they are from hens not kept in approved cages.

More EU madness. Have they fined those 13 countries? I would bet not.
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« Reply #1 on: 17 March 2012, 14:58:23 »

You were right about the Uk changing over to more chicken friendly(but still hideously constricted in my view) cages. We rushed into it and have met the deadline. 13 out of 27 EU countries didn't. Means there will be an egg shortage and no doubt as a result price increase as we can't import from the EU in case they are from hens not kept in approved cages.

More EU madness. Have they fined those 13 countries? I would bet not.
The madness is that the pricks who dictate those rules actually believe the chicken is going to be happier kept in an "approved" cage while it's bombarded with fortified food, subjected to artificial sunsets & sunrise, and having it's beak chopped off so it doesn't harm the other handful of birds that it has to share the cramped conditions with.
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« Reply #2 on: 17 March 2012, 15:36:15 »

You were right about the Uk changing over to more chicken friendly(but still hideously constricted in my view) cages. We rushed into it and have met the deadline. 13 out of 27 EU countries didn't. Means there will be an egg shortage and no doubt as a result price increase as we can't import from the EU in case they are from hens not kept in approved cages.

More EU madness. Have they fined those 13 countries? I would bet not.
The madness is that the pricks who dictate those rules actually believe the chicken is going to be happier kept in an "approved" cage while it's bombarded with fortified food, subjected to artificial sunsets & sunrise, and having it's beak chopped off so it doesn't harm the other handful of birds that it has to share the cramped conditions with.
You would of expected the new law in this day and age to be no cage at all, thought everyone was going freerange??
I keep chickens myself, well i only have one left at mo but more people should keep their own for eggs!
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« Reply #3 on: 17 March 2012, 18:01:48 »

You were right about the Uk changing over to more chicken friendly(but still hideously constricted in my view) cages. We rushed into it and have met the deadline. 13 out of 27 EU countries didn't. Means there will be an egg shortage and no doubt as a result price increase as we can't import from the EU in case they are from hens not kept in approved cages.

More EU madness. Have they fined those 13 countries? I would bet not.

We have to change them, too. It's said the more comfort feeling the chicken has the more and larger the egg she produces...And whether if it real or not...hm...who knows.As I see it's a simple "peasant glare" as we say here.
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« Reply #4 on: 17 March 2012, 21:05:10 »

Battery farming is just WRONG and CRUEL  >:( >:(

You want eggs then keep your own as I do, or get them from  local free range suppliers where you can see happy hens :y :y

SOD EUROPE    UKIP :y :y
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« Reply #5 on: 17 March 2012, 22:07:19 »

Cluck, cluck. I told you so! ;) ;D

Actually, my daughter has been nagging us to keep chickens and the idea of free and fresh eggs sounds great.

But I am not sure of what it would entail. We have a large run (which I built for my daughter's late rabbit) and I reckon it's fox proof. But, will they cause an horrendous smell in the garden? Do they require a great deal of maintenance (sh*t clearance)? Would they be a nuisance to neighbours?

All comments welcomed!
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« Reply #6 on: 17 March 2012, 22:47:29 »

Save the chickens! Cluck cluck! Cluck Europe! Free range all the way. Cluck cluck!
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Re: Nickbat was right and knows his chickens!
« Reply #7 on: 17 March 2012, 22:49:28 »

Nick's a well informed fellow who knows his eggs!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: 17 March 2012, 22:54:41 »

They are very easy but a few pointers. Firstly you need to spend some time each day with them. Check food level and that fresh water is always available (not knocked over for example or evaporeated in the hot UK sun). Change bedding in nesting box from time to time. Move run from time to time as the ground gets soiled and very bare but soon recovers. Just dig it over as hen muck is very good for improving your soil. When you go on holiday you will need  neighbour to look in on them ideally each day.

Food. Bag of proper hen food lasts ages. On top of that you can supplement with scraps, fresh food like green leaves(outer leaves of lettuce or stuff you collect from verges). They eat anything. Ours fight over shrews, a small snake once, slice of ham, leftover spaghetti)

You can let them out into your garden but you need to watch them as they are vandals. They love to dustbath to maintain health and that might be bang in the middle of your ornamental flower bed. Guinea fowl are far better behaved but make a LOT of noise and won't go into their run/hen house at night preferring house roof instead.

At the height of egg laying they lay one a day for maybe 250 days or more before moulting. That lasts a month or so before they start again. So if you have three birds that will give you around 15 to 21 eggs a week. You don't need a cockerel unless you want fertile eggs for hatching. Cockerels look and taste nice but otherwise just cosume food and amke a lot of noise unlike the hens.

Most varieties make good pets i.e. let children pick them up. They are not good at learning tricks or commands. Ours do know a few commands. OUT, come here and in you go. That is about all they bcan take on board.

Your eggs will never be as cheap as shop eggs and you may have a hen die unexpectedly from time to time but they live for quite some time(years). The eggs will however be much better taste wise and have no antibiotics etc in them.

You may find that mice or rats are attracted by the food but in reality they are there anyway but just not seen much.

Accomodation. As well as a run they will need a house to roost in(pole off the ground) and a nesting box ideally one per bird so they don't have to Q to lay. Even so you will find they all use the same box!

Hugh Fernley Whittenstall has a very good forum for poultry.

PM me if you need anymore info
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« Reply #9 on: 17 March 2012, 23:13:28 »

Thanks for that, Varche. Unfortunately, my "run" is about 6' x 6' (and about 5' high) and permanent, so I won't be able to move it around as you suggest. However, it would save my garden...what's left of it following our acquisition of a labrador 18 months ago, that is.

Don't like the idea of having to spend "time" with them every day. I mean I don't mind checking on them every day, but my time is already used up with dog walking and looking after the tropical fish and stick insects...thanks to Miss Nickbat!  ::)

Does it surprise you that even though she's just 11, she desperately wants to be a vet when she grows up?  ;)     
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« Reply #10 on: 17 March 2012, 23:31:40 »

Varche has just about covered it  :y

For good info and help try the following site. :y :y

http://forums.thepoultrykeeper.co.uk/

They cover just about everything you will ever need to know
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« Reply #11 on: 17 March 2012, 23:33:59 »

Thanks, Cleggy!  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 18 March 2012, 16:20:02 »

Our neighbour at the end of our garden keeps chickens. they are about 60 foot from our back door and make a nice quiet noise, in fact it is nice to sit in the garden and watch and listen to them.
Only problem was when he got a cockerill. All the neighbours complaine to him and then the council when he did nothing about it. Thankfully our bedrooms are at the front and side of house (bungalow) so no problems early in the morning. But and it is a big but, cockerills make a lot of noise all day.

Suffice to say I have a pot of lead shot which allmost got tipped over the fence to them. End result is council issued a noise abatment order and he finally got rid of it.

If you have neighbours. Chickens good  :y cockerills very very bad and can turn your neighbours against you very quickly.
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