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« Reply #30 on: 02 April 2012, 10:23:25 »

If you see a big mushroom cloud in the Reading area you know whats happened  ;D ;D ;D :D
And then we would all have to call Mr Gixer a rather retarded bastud, wouldn't we?  ;D

break off you!  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: 02 April 2012, 10:23:46 »

If you see a big mushroom cloud in the Reading area you know whats happened  ;D ;D ;D :D
And then we would all have to call Mr Gixer a rather retarded bastud, wouldn't we?  ;D

We don't already? ;)
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« Reply #32 on: 02 April 2012, 10:52:35 »

I'm not well up on installation regs these days but always used to work on the principal that the fuse will pop long before any of the circuit it's feeding starts to emulate an electric fire.

I like that description.. :)

And indeed, Chris, I don't think any of that would even remotely get close to Part P ;D (Now nobody look in my kitchen at what the previous owners left .. maybe I should post a photo for amusement!)

Actualy, it probably would as the main connection into the fixed circuit is via 13A fused plug!

The rest would be considered a temporary install! (which clearly it is!)

It would be interesting to know if they are older HF start florry fittings......
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« Reply #33 on: 02 April 2012, 11:04:21 »

But... to cut to the chase, when I see a messy installation like that, I want to know what has been hidden under the covers. More often than not, when I come across an installation that looks a mess, whilst I can theorise as we have, that it's messy but probably won't do any harm, when I come to take it apart I find more serious wiring errors that would have done harm if left.

Someone who's happy to "have a go" and leave an installation messy will quite often have left more serious errors too. Maybe the problem with the light is an indicator that things aren't quite as they should be under the covers?

Couldn't agree more with you Kev. Chris, i think the proper description of the previous owner as "a bit of a DIYer" should be changed to "dangerous breakwit".

It would be nice to see a seperate distribution board for the garage so if you do break anything up then you won't take the house out in the process.

Does the garage door  "glow round the edges" at night after you've fished working and shut the door  ;D
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Re: Today I mostly learnt...
« Reply #34 on: 02 April 2012, 12:19:06 »

Chris

Fit one of these http://www.screwfix.com/p/volex-2g-dp-rcd-skt-metal-clad/94351 to replace the socket if thats the incoming supply

or/and one of these http://www.screwfix.com/p/volex-13a-rcd-fcu-metal-clad/24825 to replace the fused spur

No earthing probs and protected correctly - sorted 8) :y
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« Reply #35 on: 02 April 2012, 13:03:17 »

break me. That will be over £200 by the time it's finished. Nearer £300 with cable/light switch(I might have chipped a bit off it)

Fuse box on the house has old fashioned fuses replaced with trip switches.
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« Reply #36 on: 02 April 2012, 13:05:12 »

And if your'e going to replace everything, pop down the road to Reading Electrical & Lighting - might be cheaper than ScrewFix.

They're here: http://bit.ly/HOoqAJ

S'where all the bits for my garage came from and yep, about £500 did my garage incl. 50M of 1.5mm and 100M of 2.5mm, 11 metalclad double sockets, 2x light switches, 3x FCU, 10m of 10mm SWA and 5m of 1.5mm SWA.

Definitely RCD the garage if you've only got MCBs in the house.
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« Reply #37 on: 02 April 2012, 13:15:24 »

break me. That will be over £200 by the time it's finished. Nearer £300 with cable/light switch(I might have chipped a bit off it)

Fuse box on the house has old fashioned fuses replaced with trip switches.


Wilex from the sound of it

How old is the wiring in your house Chris ?
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« Reply #38 on: 02 April 2012, 13:15:59 »

break me. That will be over £200 by the time it's finished. Nearer £300 with cable/light switch(I might have chipped a bit off it)

Fuse box on the house has old fashioned fuses replaced with trip switches.
Can't be bothered to quote previous postings, but that is nothing short of an abortion and I'm surprised nothing has happened thus far.

I'm fully qualified to BS7671 (2008) and I'll be more than happy to pop over and give my tuppence worth as to the way it should be done, and I'm sure I can sort any materials that may be needed for nowhere near Screwfix prices.
I won't even think about charging you for my time, but you can cover the petrol money from the Shot to you & back if you like (oh, it's 2 sugars and white tea BTW) ;)

Pick any day you like as I'm still not back to work officially until I get this last session of chemo out of the way.
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« Reply #39 on: 02 April 2012, 13:18:49 »

break me. That will be over £200 by the time it's finished. Nearer £300 with cable/light switch(I might have chipped a bit off it)

Fuse box on the house has old fashioned fuses replaced with trip switches.


Wilex from the sound of it

How old is the wiring in your house Chris ?
Older than him by the sounds of it from the Wylex/Crabtree board description  ;D
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« Reply #40 on: 02 April 2012, 13:23:26 »

break me. That will be over £200 by the time it's finished. Nearer £300 with cable/light switch(I might have chipped a bit off it)

Fuse box on the house has old fashioned fuses replaced with trip switches.


Wilex from the sound of it

How old is the wiring in your house Chris ?
Older than him by the sounds of it from the Wylex/Crabtree board description  ;D


Saftey boots and rubber gloves time  ;D ;D

Any bets the lights are wired in the old 2391 1mm twin with no earth and the sockets are the old multi stranded 2.5 t&e  ::)



Imho, its a case of "rip it up and start again"
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Re: Today I mostly learnt...
« Reply #41 on: 02 April 2012, 13:35:38 »

break me. That will be over £200 by the time it's finished. Nearer £300 with cable/light switch(I might have chipped a bit off it)

Fuse box on the house has old fashioned fuses replaced with trip switches.
Can't be bothered to quote previous postings, but that is nothing short of an abortion and I'm surprised nothing has happened thus far.

I'm fully qualified to BS7671 (2008) and I'll be more than happy to pop over and give my tuppence worth as to the way it should be done, and I'm sure I can sort any materials that may be needed for nowhere near Screwfix prices.
I won't even think about charging you for my time, but you can cover the petrol money from the Shot to you & back if you like (oh, it's 2 sugars and white tea BTW) ;)

Pick any day you like as I'm still not back to work officially until I get this last session of chemo out of the way.

You won't get a better offer than that, Chris. Martian can sort out the electrics and we can get busy on his 318 with the spring compressors. :y
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« Reply #42 on: 02 April 2012, 13:37:49 »

Pick any day you like as I'm still not back to work officially until I get this last session of chemo out of the way.

Do you fancy rewiring my house as you go past on your way home? ;D
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« Reply #43 on: 02 April 2012, 13:48:48 »

I really don't like the look of that lot. Best we tidy it up sometime, TBH, Chris. :y

+1.. complicated bodge jobs can easily get nasty.. :-\
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« Reply #44 on: 02 April 2012, 14:11:53 »

Saftey boots and rubber gloves time  ;D ;D

Any bets the lights are wired in the old 2391 1mm twin with no earth and the sockets are the old multi stranded 2.5 t&e  ::)

Unless it was wired pre 1969 I expect the cpc will be present, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to find it's not actually connected.


You won't get a better offer than that, Chris. Martian can sort out the electrics and we can get busy on his 318 with the spring compressors. :y
The springs (as well as a couple of bushes after closer inspection) should be sorted for me next week, but if that falls through for any reason then your suggestion works for me  :)


Do you fancy rewiring my house as you go past on your way home? ;D
You'll be doing all the donkey work on that one, I'll just do the final connect  ;)

If you do have any concerns though, I'm quite happy to pop over and do a test/inspect for you.
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