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Undertaxing of motorists
« on: 02 April 2012, 16:24:30 »

Now we all know that motorists are very undertaxed in the UK with only, new car tax, VAT, vehicle excise duty, fuel tax, Car Insurance IPT, resident parking tax, town centre shopping parking tax to name but a few. But it is not enough.....

The latest which has started today in Nottingham (The old sheriff would be proud)) is workplace parking tax. If you are provided with a workplace parking space that will be £288 per year please, rising to £350 by 2014 after that is will be raised inline with inflation (so as wages are falling in real terms it will get proportionally bigger). Other Dick Turpins councils in Devon, York, Hampshire, Bournemouth, Bristol, Somerset and Wiltshire are planning to introduce the money spinner tax between 2012 and 2014. Nottingham will raise £8m this year rising to £11.3m in 2014. To justify it they say they are going to spend the money on transport infrastructure, but how long do you think this will be ring-fenced?  >:( >:( >:( >:(

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9179055/Tax-on-workplace-car-parks-begins-in-Nottingham.html

How long will be be before this is a nationwide scheme?

To balance the books the Goverment has got to decrease spending from 45% of GDP to 38% or increase taxes to 45%. Now which do you think will be easier? In 2008 UK Government debt interest was £16bn this year it will be £40bn. The tax ratchet will keep clicking until we are taxed on average at least 45%. As it is an average, those in employment on average wages without a family are already losing about 50% of their income in tax, so this is only going to get higher.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #1 on: 02 April 2012, 16:26:14 »

I wondered how long it'd be before something about this got posted up ;) I saw it this morning .. things like this no longer surprise me :(

Heck, I'm amazed they even allow companies to build offices with parking these days :-/
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #2 on: 02 April 2012, 16:32:12 »

I can see that really improving the business park where I work.

Probably about 40% of the office space actually occupied, huge great car parks standing empty and locked up. Cars abandoned all over the road.

"No, thanks. I don't need a car parking space at £howrathermuch? a year."

"I'll car pool abandon it on the pavement instead."
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #3 on: 02 April 2012, 16:37:43 »

I remember this being proposed when I used to work out for a company based in Nottingham before starting my new life here in the land of milk and honey.  ;D

I often wonder how companies will "pass " the cost on. Half the places in the very large car park where I worked were allocated to people who needed to go out and about and the other half to "senior" people who then made sure that if they weren't using the space someone else on the team did.

So do companies dock £300 a year from your wage, pass the cost on to customers by raising their prices or relocate? I saw one lorry maintenance company in Nottingham planned to do just that.
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #4 on: 02 April 2012, 16:43:06 »

It's a tax, so guessing the company declare it as a taxable benefit you are given as part of your employment and it's snaffled away through PAYE before you even get a sniff.

You can bet all other parking options anywhere near any workplace will be locked down pretty tight too. >:(
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #5 on: 02 April 2012, 16:55:00 »

nothing to do with the story being printed april the 1st?
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« Reply #6 on: 02 April 2012, 16:59:15 »

Teachers at school? Town hall workers? Asda colleagues?  ;D
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #7 on: 02 April 2012, 17:00:23 »

nothing to do with the story being printed april the 1st?



Nope  :(

Applies if your workplace has 8 or more parking spaces iirc  :(
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #8 on: 02 April 2012, 17:01:19 »

just done a quick google and yeh looks like the mail 1st ran this story in aug 2009!   
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« Reply #9 on: 02 April 2012, 17:27:55 »

Could spare a thought for those who have to pay to park for their work. I work at very large place and I, like many others allready pay about £300 per year to park in there precious car parks. I wonder how that will effect me. I suspect it will just mean I will have to pay double.

Still there are ways of getting back.
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« Reply #10 on: 02 April 2012, 17:49:19 »

My mate wife has been paying this for a few years now and she works at a hospital as a nurse she has no choice it is stopped from her wages wether or not she goes to work in her car i think its disgusting and i for one would not pay to park at work :y
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« Reply #11 on: 02 April 2012, 19:48:02 »

I wonder how you get on if like me you walk to work 99% of the time & park very very rairly.
I'll be dekcuf if I'm paying x amount for what I don't really use.
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #12 on: 03 April 2012, 15:44:54 »

This was being proposed when I worked for Boots in Nottingham in 2009.  The tax is on the employer, not the employee, and it is up to the business concerned how, or if, they recover it from the employees.

I remember at the time that Boots was considering moving its car park from one side of the site to the other so that it would no longer be in Nottingham but in neighbouring Beeston - and they certainly had the space to do it as the site is huge!  There was even talk of them not passing the cost on to staff, but I don't think that was really an option having seen the size of car park.  It would have cost them a fortune (although there is no question that they couldn't afford it!).
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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #13 on: 06 April 2012, 12:53:54 »

The Japs have an interesting system in Tokyo, friend worked out there for a while & was given a company flat.

Extreme jealousy ensued as it had a parking space, which is very rare. He then discovered that you are not allowed to own a car if you live in the city, UNLESS you have off street parking.

He wasn't there long enough to warrent getting a car (flat came with a pushbike too), so rented the space it to his boss.......made extra cash & a lot of brownie points!

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Re: Undertaxing of motorists
« Reply #14 on: 06 April 2012, 15:13:21 »



...//The latest which has started today in Nottingham (The old sheriff would be proud)) is workplace parking tax.

How long will be be before this is a nationwide scheme?




Yes, the signs are all there - then it's easy to extort money from those who have no place to hide.

The intent in holding such comprehensive data on the citizens of this country, by various arms of government, - enforced by means of remote surveillance or state lackeys hoping for a Knighthood or a good pension/bonus - must now be obvious to those who have allowed this naked grab for personal information to sail by unchallenged.

We have always sympathised with those unfortunates in lands where it is almost impossible to exist free from state oppression or interference, but now we must look to ourselves to see just how far our own freedoms have been diluted by those who would judge themselves capable - by dint of public apathy - of representing us in government and other state institutions.

It is another example of the ever thickening wedge forming between those in 'power' and the remainder of our people.
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