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[The Red Baron]

i take it youve checked that its all timed up correctly, it sounds like a v6 elite i had when the belt had jumped tbh.

[doz]

Aye. My old Elite sounded like that when 1 camshaft was a tooth out, 2 were 2 tooth out and the last fooker was 4  It didn't bend the valves but man it sound rough

[The Red Baron]

Aye. My old Elite sounded like that when 1 camshaft was a tooth out, 2 were 2 tooth out and the last fooker was 4  It didn't bend the valves but man it sound rough

yep, same as the vid tbh.

[Webby the Bear]

Nice one chaps. you are the best. cambelt was next job so thats a result!

i say ill do the cambelt, get that timed correctly. then if it still sounds rough i was then going to do HG job so i had to take the camshafts out anyway

[Webby the Bear]

Here's a thing i've just thought of. feel free to shout me down if i'm wrong lol

but if the timing belt was out would there not be a code come up from the cam sensor?

i've not paperclipped yet but just wondering if i saw that tyhat wud confirm it

[doz]

Wasn't when mine were out

[The Red Baron]

i think the first thing i would have looked at would be the cam timing tbh, get the front cover off her & get a locking kit on it, put you a pint on the cams being out.

[Webby the Bear]

i think the first thing i would have looked at would be the cam timing tbh, get the front cover off her & get a locking kit on it, put you a pint on the cams being out.

Wonderful! Cheers lads.

It's perfect really.... was going to do timing belt next anyway. then HG which involves getting the camshafts out... so perfect timing really (no pun)

[omega3000]

Was ralfie always running as bad as that like in the video , just wondering if it wasnt then you have to trace back and see if you have moved/dislodged or forgotten to tighten something up . Surely ralf wasnt running round the streets like that when owner ralf had ralfie 

The more you listen to the video the more it sounds like exhaust manifold imo 

[Webby the Bear]

yep, it ran that bad the day i got it

[omega3000]

yep, it ran that bad the day i got it

Oh i see , not good then . Think it needs an oofer mechanic to give it the once over b4 you go spending anymore money on it but all depends if you want to still tinkle on it yourself for practice  Are you planning on doing all the work for mot and then sell it 

[Webby the Bear]

yep, it ran that bad the day i got it

Oh i see , not good then . Think it needs an oofer mechanic to give it the once over b4 you go spending anymore money on it but all depends if you want to still tinkle on it yourself for practice  Are you planning on doing all the work for mot and then sell it 

nar mate i aint spending any dosh on it. it's just for practising jobs on.

if it works as a reasult of one of those jobs fixing it then great. if not, i shall donate it to the college to be worked on

[feeutfo]

What's the history then?

Well I spoke to Ralf (the real Ralf) before I bought it and there was no misfire. He had the cam cover gaskets done and then this what seems like a missfire develops. I redo the CC gaskets, replace plugs, replace HT leads and replace disspac... and still sounds like this 

Well, as it was purchased as is, if it was me I'd start with the simple stuff first and work in deeper. Start with leaks and breakages, change the oil and add wyyns, then cam timing/crank it by hand, etc remove egr pipe see of it's cracked split or leaking. If still no good, cams out and check litters although an experienced eye would be handy there.

[Webby the Bear]

What's the history then?

Well I spoke to Ralf (the real Ralf) before I bought it and there was no misfire. He had the cam cover gaskets done and then this what seems like a missfire develops. I redo the CC gaskets, replace plugs, replace HT leads and replace disspac... and still sounds like this 

Well, as it was purchased as is, if it was me I'd start with the simple stuff first and work in deeper. Start with leaks and breakages, change the oil and add wyyns, then cam timing/crank it by hand, etc remove egr pipe see of it's cracked split or leaking. If still no good, cams out and check litters although an experienced eye would be handy there.

That is defo the most sensible course of action. cheers chris. 

[feeutfo]

What's the history then?

Well I spoke to Ralf (the real Ralf) before I bought it and there was no misfire. He had the cam cover gaskets done and then this what seems like a missfire develops. I redo the CC gaskets, replace plugs, replace HT leads and replace disspac... and still sounds like this 

Well, as it was purchased as is, if it was me I'd start with the simple stuff first and work in deeper. Start with leaks and breakages, change the oil and add wyyns, then cam timing/crank it by hand, etc remove egr pipe see of it's cracked split or leaking. If still no good, cams out and check litters although an experienced eye would be handy there.

That is defo the most sensible course of action. cheers chris. 

Not forgetting exhaust manifolds for leaks, and a peer down the plug wells into the boor looking for valve marks in the pistons. Although it would struggle to run at all with bent valves.