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Re: LPG (again)
« Reply #30 on: 01 April 2008, 21:53:56 »

Thanks for all the replies .. useful info  :)

To put the record straight, the guy wasn't talking about him doing the work, when I asked if the LPG install prevented any such work, or made it harder, we started to chat about the jobs I did on the old beast. It was then he advised ME to do those jobs before an LPG install,  so he wasn't trying to make a fast buck ... he even advised me regarding Bosch leads, Bosch CPP, and NGK spark plugs. I was just wondering if you experts agreed.

I was concerned about the 50K comment as so many folks here have LPG.. seems he may be being "protective".

This guy is offering a 100ltr tank, BRC system, 2 year warranty, courtesy car, free 1000 mile check for £1850+VAT, and comes with high recomendation from 2 sources known to me, one a Disco, one a Rangy ... he says he's done one 3.2 and "several" 2.5's. for the BRC system he is £400 cheaper than the nearest.

Opinions anyone ??
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Re: LPG (again)
« Reply #31 on: 01 April 2008, 22:08:59 »

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Was speaking to a company this afternoon regarding their quote etc etc, the guy had a few things to say that I'd like others opinions on ... :)

1. Omega V6 engine can be "fragile" when converted to LPG, it can fail for piston/valve burnout after 30-50,000 miles.
I've heard this about Ford V6s but never the GM V6. Plenty of evidence to the contrary amongst our members. :-/
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2. He recommends the thermostat/cam cover gaskets/HBV/HT leads/CPP units and spark plugs are all replaced before hand to avoid having to disturb the LPG fit.
@rse covering, I reckon. He knows that if these fail during the warranty on the conversion you may be back to him because the LPG system has been disturbed by some muppet and doesn't work any more. It's fair to say that the HT system needs to be in good condition and it would look bad on him if the LPG conversion didn't go well due to the plugs / leads being old, or if he later tells you you need to splash out to replace them etc. For a DIY install, I'd probably see how it goes, but replace the plugs if they've got significant mileage on them.
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3. CPP units will probably only last 25000 miles on LPG as they overheat due to the engine running hotter on LPG.
Rubbish. Engine temperature is determined by the thermostat. As said, all ignition components have a harder time on LPG so if a part is failing anyway it might fail shortly after conversion but heat's got nothing to do with it. I'll be surprised if their life is so significantly reduced.
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Re: LPG (again)
« Reply #32 on: 01 April 2008, 22:24:47 »

Following up on no. 1.

It's entirely possible that if an LPG system has not been correctly tuned and the fuelling is too lean, and you then hoof it, you could burn out a piston or valve. Maybe this is
@rse covering too. :-/

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« Reply #33 on: 01 April 2008, 22:44:00 »

I use NGK plugs

As to the quote for BRC and 100l tank - sounds quite good - where are they based?
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« Reply #34 on: 02 April 2008, 09:41:35 »

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Was speaking to a company this afternoon regarding their quote etc etc, the guy had a few things to say that I'd like others opinions on ... :)

1. Omega V6 engine can be "fragile" when converted to LPG, it can fail for piston/valve burnout after 30-50,000 miles.

2. He recommends the thermostat/cam cover gaskets/HBV/HT leads/CPP units and spark plugs are all replaced before hand to avoid having to disturb the LPG fit.

3. CPP units will probably only last 25000 miles on LPG as they overheat due to the engine running hotter on LPG.

Any views anyone ??
My first Omega was a 96 2.5 CD Estate which had covered 250,000 miles, 180,000 of which was on a single point LPG system and it never let me down :y
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Re: LPG (again)
« Reply #35 on: 02 April 2008, 20:42:36 »

Definately use ngk plugs... And don't get talked into buying the posh ones... You'll still need to replace them just bp often! As for temperature... The engine bay may get slightly warmer because the exhaust gasses will be slightly hotter but not really anything to worry about.

That's my experience anyway from running my v8 rangey on lpg for 40k with very few issues! Just keep on top of ignition system components!
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Re: LPG (again)
« Reply #36 on: 02 April 2008, 20:52:15 »

@Martin

This is the CLS Dual Fuel group,

http://www.agpl.co.uk

the guy I'm talking to is Alresford, Hampshire

http://www.amsautogas.com/index.htm

To everyone else .. thanks for the comments .. appreciated  :)
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