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Win 7 security rant
« on: 28 April 2012, 22:39:26 »

I'm trying to get to grips with Win7. Grrr.

I'm thought I'd try to update some of my drivers. Downloaded one from the net and extracted it to a temp folder on Drive C.

Do you think it will let me update? Access to the file is denied. I've tried changing the attributes, changing the sharing, even the ownership, but I still get the same message and still that bloody padlock is showing next to the file.

Damnable nightmare.  >:( >:(
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #1 on: 28 April 2012, 22:42:32 »

I let windows update itself but I also use a program called secunia PSI it also provides links to the updated files.
it sounds like the file is protected from the download site
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #2 on: 29 April 2012, 08:20:49 »

Get a Mac!
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #3 on: 29 April 2012, 08:50:54 »

Get a Mac!

Burberry sell quality ones :y
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #4 on: 29 April 2012, 09:15:49 »

I'm trying to get to grips with Win7. Grrr.

I'm thought I'd try to update some of my drivers. Downloaded one from the net and extracted it to a temp folder on Drive C.

Do you think it will let me update? Access to the file is denied. I've tried changing the attributes, changing the sharing, even the ownership, but I still get the same message and still that bloody padlock is showing next to the file.

Damnable nightmare.  >:( >:(
Is it extracting the file, or actually installing the driver.

Former should download to user's Download folder (assuming IE9, if not using IE9, why not?) which the user will have full access to.

Later requires signed drivers (ideally under 32bit, enforced under 64bit (yeah, yeah, workarounds possible)).


I presume you are running as an administrative user (naughty boy), but you still need to get out of the mindset that you have unrestricted access to the system.
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #5 on: 29 April 2012, 09:16:42 »

Get a Mac!
And how will that help install Windows drivers  :-\
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #6 on: 29 April 2012, 09:18:23 »

Get a Mac!
And how will that help install Windows drivers  :-\

It won't, just telling him the error of his ways with Windows 7  ;D
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #7 on: 29 April 2012, 09:24:11 »

Get a Mac!
And how will that help install Windows drivers  :-\

It won't, just telling him the error of his ways with Windows 7  ;D
I think you are the one in error here ;)

Fortunately for crApple fanboys, Lord Jobs died. The people in charge now are (slightly) more reasonable.


However, if Windows 8 is released in its current form, I won't be at the top of the queue to upgrade!
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #8 on: 29 April 2012, 13:51:55 »

Get a Mac!
And how will that help install Windows drivers  :-\

It won't, just telling him the error of his ways with Windows 7  ;D
I think you are the one in error here ;)

Fortunately for crApple fanboys, Lord Jobs died. The people in charge now are (slightly) more reasonable.


However, if Windows 8 is released in its current form, I won't be at the top of the queue to upgrade!
With you on that one TB. I see Win8 will come with the Metro virus preinstalled.
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #9 on: 29 April 2012, 14:53:13 »

I'm trying to get to grips with Win7. Grrr.

I'm thought I'd try to update some of my drivers. Downloaded one from the net and extracted it to a temp folder on Drive C.

Do you think it will let me update? Access to the file is denied. I've tried changing the attributes, changing the sharing, even the ownership, but I still get the same message and still that bloody padlock is showing next to the file.

Damnable nightmare.  >:( >:(
Is it extracting the file, or actually installing the driver.

Former should download to user's Download folder (assuming IE9, if not using IE9, why not?) which the user will have full access to.

Later requires signed drivers (ideally under 32bit, enforced under 64bit (yeah, yeah, workarounds possible)).


I presume you are running as an administrative user (naughty boy), but you still need to get out of the mindset that you have unrestricted access to the system.


The downloaded file is zipped. it doesn't seem to matter where I place the zip file (tried user>desktop>download) or to where I extract it. I can cut and paste the file wherever I want, but when I try to install the new driver via control panel>device manager it says that the driver has been found, but access is denied.

If I right click the file (either .zip or .inf) and look at properties it shows the padlock and although I have tried clicking share with user, share with everyone or whatever, it still reverts to its locked condition. >:( >:(

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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #10 on: 29 April 2012, 19:01:31 »

Aha! Now I've found that it is encrypted (shows as green font in explorer). Is encryption turned on automatically in Win7 Ultimate, I wonder?

I certainly didn't mean to encrypt it, but now I need to spend the evening Googling trying to find out how to un-encrypt the blighter! >:( >:( ::) ::)
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #11 on: 29 April 2012, 19:56:09 »

Aha! Now I've found that it is encrypted (shows as green font in explorer). Is encryption turned on automatically in Win7 Ultimate, I wonder?

I certainly didn't mean to encrypt it, but now I need to spend the evening Googling trying to find out how to un-encrypt the blighter! >:( >:( ::) ::)
Turn BitLocker off
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #12 on: 29 April 2012, 20:37:47 »

Aha! Now I've found that it is encrypted (shows as green font in explorer). Is encryption turned on automatically in Win7 Ultimate, I wonder?

I certainly didn't mean to encrypt it, but now I need to spend the evening Googling trying to find out how to un-encrypt the blighter! >:( >:( ::) ::)
Turn BitLocker off

BitLocker is off! I don't know why but the main driver folder was fine but right-clicking the actual driver file and then choosing advanced properties showed it the archiving and encryption boxes both checked. Unchecked and now OK! :y   
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #13 on: 29 April 2012, 20:38:38 »

BitLocker is a right pain in the bum!
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Re: Win 7 security rant
« Reply #14 on: 29 April 2012, 21:07:49 »

BitLocker is a right pain in the bum!
again, wrong. Its probably the best of the drive encryption methods, fast and seamless ;)


nickbat - where did you obtain driver?
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