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[Webby the Bear]

One quick thing re brake shoes....

If I didn't slacken the handbrake cable prior to removing the shoes what would happen? is that ok to do?

Reason I ask is cos i can't move ralf as he's half dead (not long til he's good again) and i'd want to get him up on my sturdy ramps cos i really dont want to get under the car with it on my cheap axel stands 

[The Red Baron]

One quick thing re brake shoes....

If I didn't slacken the handbrake cable prior to removing the shoes what would happen? is that ok to do?

Reason I ask is cos i can't move ralf as he's half dead (not long til he's good again) and i'd want to get him up on my sturdy ramps cos i really dont want to get under the car with it on my cheap axel stands 

i had a strange moment last week, elite up on stands, went under to drop the front pipes off the manifolds & went into panic mode. really odd. never affected me before.

[Webby the Bear]

One quick thing re brake shoes....

If I didn't slacken the handbrake cable prior to removing the shoes what would happen? is that ok to do?

Reason I ask is cos i can't move ralf as he's half dead (not long til he's good again) and i'd want to get him up on my sturdy ramps cos i really dont want to get under the car with it on my cheap axel stands 

i had a strange moment last week, elite up on stands, went under to drop the front pipes off the manifolds & went into panic mode. really odd. never affected me before.

Yes mate, i really don't like it. Was well happy under Daz's hydraulic lifts  but stands and even my ramps dont fill me with confidence. when i was changing oil filter i just had visions of what i'd look like with a car for a head 

[freecall666]

afew years back in the bad wind we had saw a man had his hand choped off as he was changing the front wheel on the car jack big gust of wind, car came off jack and chop. never liked the standard jacks they put in with spare wheel. dont know how he got on but there was alot of people round him till amblance got there.

[Webby the Bear]

So does anyone know if I can get the shoes off without slacening the hand brake cable off?

[Agemo]

If the shoes are well worn, & the adjusters were not working, you will get the drum/disc off OK. The correct way, is to slacken off the adjuster on the cable first. 

[omega3000]

Years ago i was fitting a capri gearbox on my back and the gearbox dropped and pinned my fingers between a support and edge of gearbox ...mucho swearing 
I was not happy at jacking the car up onto ramps as my jack was at full stretch with the elite and still not enough space to get the ramp under , pity the car cant be driven up the ramp but with being an auto i would never try it 

[Webby the Bear]

If the shoes are well worn, & the adjusters were not working, you will get the drum/disc off OK. The correct way, is to slacken off the adjuster on the cable first. 

Yeah disc came off no problem but i had let the handbrake off before i jacked it up so i think thats why the disc/drum came off easy. i of course chocked front wheels and put in 'P' before i jacked up.

but i want to get the shoes off next. so with the handbrake off and disc/drum off will i be able to get the shoes off without adjusting the handbrake cable?

sorry just gettin bit confused lol

[Webby the Bear]

Well called Vx this morning. £16 something for Retaining sprngs and replacement pins.

Same thing at Eurocarparts.... £6

Will fit these tonight. Hopefully they won't bind up the brakes 

[Webby the Bear]

got the new pad retaining springs. fitted them. they work brilliantly retaining the pads whilst allowing movement for ''on/off'' application.

clearly the old ones were real toast!!! 

[omega3000]

got the new pad retaining springs. fitted them. they work brilliantly retaining the pads whilst allowing movement for ''on/off'' application.

clearly the old ones were real toast!!! 

Is this the replacement parts for ragbone ralf 
The old pins on mine were corroded as well so i replaced them too .

[Webby the Bear]

got the new pad retaining springs. fitted them. they work brilliantly retaining the pads whilst allowing movement for ''on/off'' application.

clearly the old ones were real toast!!! 

Is this the replacement parts for ragbone ralf 
The old pins on mine were corroded as well so i replaced them too .

hahaa funny you ask that mate...... as soon as i put them on (to check they'd work correctly) i took them off and put them back in the bag so i got some decent ones when i do the job on Daisy (the good car) 

the pins included were quite a bit shorter and i didnt bother trying them as i was short of time 

HOWEVER good news has hit the bear cave..... timing belt to be started tomorrow 

[aaronjb]

Two lengths of pins - short for cars with solid rear discs (your 2.5 should have those) and long for cars with vented discs (late 2.6/3.2 I believe)..

[Webby the Bear]

that's better...... 

[dbug]

Years ago i was fitting a capri gearbox on my back and the gearbox dropped and pinned my fingers between a support and edge of gearbox ...mucho swearing 
I was not happy at jacking the car up onto ramps as my jack was at full stretch with the elite and still not enough space to get the ramp under , pity the car cant be driven up the ramp but with being an auto i would never try it 

Always drive our cars up onto ramps (all autos except TR4A) - need to use short planks on bottom of ramp (~2" thick) to allow Omega front valance to clear ramp.  No issues with an autobox and ramps just take it steady and remember to use brakes to stop