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Argentina playing games again....
« on: 04 May 2012, 10:35:25 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17946838

Bit cheeky filming that, lets hope they don't get any medals!

Very interesting comparison here on the military situation now, compared with '82. Good points raised around that a lack of Aircraft carriers is not the nail in coffin everyone thinks. Only way they can hope to re-take them is via the Civilian Aircraft ploy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17157373

Hope we give them two fingers on a 50/50 split with oil though  >:(
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Re: Argentina playing games again....
« Reply #1 on: 04 May 2012, 10:44:03 »

I'm undecided about the legal ownership of the Falklands/Malvinas..........but the President of Argentina is quite easy on the eye..... ::) ::) :)
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« Reply #2 on: 04 May 2012, 10:52:19 »

I'm undecided about the legal ownership of the Falklands/Malvinas..........but the President of Argentina is quite easy on the eye..... ::) ::) :)

I would suggest it is very simple Opti. The islands belong to the islanders, not the UK or argentina. Same as Gibraltar belongs to the Gibraltans, not the UK or Spain. And a few other places in similar situations. If those places want to ally to the UK that is there choice. No other country should be able to decide on someone else's fate.

And yes I am aware of that fiasco involving the UK somewhere in the Indian ocean, now that is a travesty.
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Re: Argentina playing games again....
« Reply #3 on: 04 May 2012, 11:00:12 »

I'm undecided about the legal ownership of the Falklands/Malvinas..........but the President of Argentina is quite easy on the eye..... ::) ::) :)

I would suggest it is very simple Opti. The islands belong to the islanders, not the UK or argentina. Same as Gibraltar belongs to the Gibraltans, not the UK or Spain. And a few other places in similar situations. If those places want to ally to the UK that is there choice. No other country should be able to decide on someone else's fate.

And yes I am aware of that fiasco involving the UK somewhere in the Indian ocean, now that is a travesty.

Diego Garcia? Not one of our better efforts! :-[
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Re: Argentina playing games again....
« Reply #4 on: 04 May 2012, 11:03:03 »

At the end of the day, the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands are indigenous to the islands and have been for generations.
They choose to be a part of the United Kingdom and we want them too  :y
That is what the United Nations look at so the argies haven't got a fooking hope in hell of getting the islands.   

If they ever did try the trick with a civvy airliner, declare war on them and level there infrastructure with tomahawks and watch the nutty rather bitch's country go back to the dark ages  ;)
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Re: Argentina playing games again....
« Reply #5 on: 04 May 2012, 11:08:26 »

At the end of the day, the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands are indigenous to the islands and have been for generations.
They choose to be a part of the United Kingdom and we want them too  :y
That is what the United Nations look at so the argies haven't got a fooking hope in hell of getting the islands.   

If they ever did try the trick with a civvy airliner, declare war on them and level there infrastructure with tomahawks and watch the nutty rather bitch's country go back to the dark ages  ;)

Don't forget sinking what little ships they have, I'm sure we have a sub lurking around those parts.

Military wise, the Argies are still in the 80's so they are screwed on all counts.
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« Reply #6 on: 04 May 2012, 11:15:55 »

At the end of the day, the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands are indigenous to the islands and have been for generations.
They choose to be a part of the United Kingdom and we want them too  :y
That is what the United Nations look at so the argies haven't got a fooking hope in hell of getting the islands.   

If they ever did try the trick with a civvy airliner, declare war on them and level there infrastructure with tomahawks and watch the nutty rather bitch's country go back to the dark ages  ;)

Don't forget sinking what little ships they have, I'm sure we have a sub lurking around those parts.

Military wise, the Argies are still in the 80's so they are screwed on all counts.



Not quite  ;)

Those pesky little skyhawks was kindly updated with the radar and weapons system off the first generation F16's by our loyal friends and allies, the good old US of A  about 1998 >:( >:(

Well whats left of them anyway after the Royal Navy's missile systems and the Sea Harriers had finished playing with them  :y ;D ;D
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Re: Argentina playing games again....
« Reply #7 on: 04 May 2012, 11:16:44 »

I'm undecided about the legal ownership of the Falklands/Malvinas..........but the President of Argentina is quite easy on the eye..... ::) ::) :)

I would suggest it is very simple Opti. The islands belong to the islanders, not the UK or argentina. Same as Gibraltar belongs to the Gibraltans, not the UK or Spain. And a few other places in similar situations. If those places want to ally to the UK that is there choice. No other country should be able to decide on someone else's fate.

And yes I am aware of that fiasco involving the UK somewhere in the Indian ocean, now that is a travesty.

Diego Garcia? Not one of our better efforts! :-[

Thank You Varche  :y. Spot on. I know the problem but I can never remember the name of it for some reason.
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« Reply #8 on: 04 May 2012, 11:56:21 »

I'm undecided about the legal ownership of the Falklands/Malvinas..........but the President of Argentina is quite easy on the eye..... ::) ::) :)

I leave those sort of opinions to Den, but then again he is so Desperate I reckon even Fuhrer Merkel gets his bloody pressure up. ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Argentina playing games again....
« Reply #9 on: 04 May 2012, 12:07:46 »

You'd have to be very desperate to find her remotely attractive  :o
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Re: Argentina playing games again....
« Reply #10 on: 04 May 2012, 12:53:26 »

Well put Sir  :y


Reaction to Argentine Olympic Advert
 We were very disappointed this morning to see the advert from the Argentine Presidential Office, attempting to politicise the Olympics in service of their territorial ambitions. This video was filmed without the knowledge of the Falkland Islands authorities.It is deeply sad to see Mr Zylberberg clambering over a war memorial, especially in this anniversary year. Sadly, this illustrates the disrespect the Argentine authorities have for our home and our people. Unsurprisingly, at no stage does the video feature any Falkland Islanders – a clear reflection of Argentina’s policy, which is to pretend that the people of the Falkland Islands do not exist. It is time the world took note – we do exist, and as with all people we have rights, which the Argentine Government is trying to deny us. We are our own people, who through nine generations have lived and worked in these islands for nearly 200 years.We determine our own future, and we will not be bullied by the Argentine Government, neither by their attempts to undermine our economy, nor by their constant misrepresentation of the truth, nor by pieces of cheap and disrespectful propaganda such as this. It is hugely disappointing to see sport abused in this way, when it is so often seen as a vehicle for unity. It seems an act of desperation to sink to this.Hon. Ian HansenMember of the Legislative AssemblyWe were very disappointed this morning to see the advert from the Argentine Presidential Office, attempting to politicise the Olympics in service of their territorial ambitions. This video was filmed without the knowledge of the Falkland Islands authorities.
 
It is deeply sad to see Mr Zylberberg clambering over a war memorial, especially in this anniversary year. Sadly, this illustrates the disrespect the Argentine authorities have for our home and our people. Unsurprisingly, at no stage does the video feature any Falkland Islanders – a clear reflection of Argentina’s policy, which is to pretend that the people of the Falkland Islands do not exist. It is time the world took note – we do exist, and as with all people we have rights, which the Argentine Government is trying to deny us. We are our own people, who through nine generations have lived and worked in these islands for nearly 200 years.
 
We determine our own future, and we will not be bullied by the Argentine Government, neither by their attempts to undermine our economy, nor by their constant misrepresentation of the truth, nor by pieces of cheap and disrespectful propaganda such as this. It is hugely disappointing to see sport abused in this way, when it is so often seen as a vehicle for unity. It seems an act of desperation to sink to this.
 
Hon. Ian Hansen
 
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Re: Argentina playing games again....
« Reply #11 on: 04 May 2012, 13:17:46 »

If the Argies got hold of serious quantities of oil, they would turn into another Bahrain......

....a very desperate government with major internal problems, still makes a good smoke screen for her!
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« Reply #12 on: 04 May 2012, 13:54:47 »

As for the oil that is there, so far only small Falkland Island owned companies have made attempts to drill for it.
These small fry have been looked at by the Majors, BP, Shell, Chevron etc but nothing happening at the moment. I guess once the extent of the fields are known, then the big boys will step in, buy out the small fry (share deal for everyone) and then..... who knows.

One thing is Argentina will have to have a say in matters as the supply boats will have to load and unload there.
There was talk about developing Stanley Airfield to take freight flights, also upgrade the harbour to take sea freight. It's all about money though, how much in the way of returns? Still a long way away for getting stuff there, as for flights for the crew changes???? 
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« Reply #13 on: 04 May 2012, 14:00:24 »

I would have thought if big amounts of oil were found, they would extend Stanley's ports. Get around the hassle of Argentina, should hopefully pish them off some more  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: 04 May 2012, 14:36:05 »

Aye, that would be quite easy, after all they are big enough at the moment to take cruise liners. The hard part, like I said would be getting the crews there, I'm talking about senior crew, supervisors and the like....plenty of Brits in that category.
Most oil drilling companies use commercial flights, can't see them setting up flights to Ascension Islands!!
I'll have to find out what went on in that regard from a few mates who were down there on the Ocean Guardian during the last exploration round a couple of years back.... be interesting to know how they managed it.
Normally, working abroad, all the junior positions are taken up by locals to keep the costs down, can't see there being many experienced roustabouts and floormen on the Falklands and they certainly don't want to employ Argies, LOL       FIGHT!!!!
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