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Nickbat

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Clarkson is right
« on: 05 May 2012, 23:33:43 »

He's caused a bit of a storm, but he's spot on about this and echoes the comments I have made about positive profiling (which is used at Tel Aviv and other places).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140004/Jeremy-Clarkson-claims-delays-Heathrow-solved-bit-racism.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

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Re: Clarkson is right
« Reply #1 on: 06 May 2012, 00:08:18 »

He is right I suspect.
However, not being a traveller....I assume everybody goes in the same queue ??? But you can't say..'all the English in this queue' and everybody else over here, because that suggests 'colour' segregation. Meaning English to be white.
This is one of the penalties you have to pay because this country is 'multicultral/multiracial.'
I happen to live in a 99.9% 'white' area, but, only 3 miles away, that area produced terrorists which were from the Asian community. So I think I fully understand what Clarkson is getting at. Its a 'read between the lines' job.
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« Reply #2 on: 06 May 2012, 00:11:25 »

Actually there are four queues at Heathrow T5 (and most places) - Non-EU, EU, Iris and e-Passport.. of course thanks to the appalling layout of the passport hall in T5, you can't get to the (quicker) Iris or e-Passport lines once the regular lines back up  :-\
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Re: Clarkson is right
« Reply #3 on: 06 May 2012, 00:24:21 »

Actually, thinking about it IIRC...did not the census forms class us as British white, British Asian and British other. I may be wrong.
If this is the case, then why can't aisles be titled as such. I think this is what JC is talking about :y
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« Reply #4 on: 06 May 2012, 00:36:00 »

Actually, thinking about it IIRC...did not the census forms class us as British white, British Asian and British other. I may be wrong.
If this is the case, then why can't aisles be titled as such. I think this is what JC is talking about :y

No, it's not about colour or ethnicity per se. There are Caucasians in Europe who do not share our culture and would be happy to see its downfall. :(

We're talking about terrorism/immigration issues here. The point he is making is that a family of four from, let's say, Devon, who are returning from a holiday in the Dominican Republic should perhaps be treated with less caution than a young male travelling alone on a one-way ticket from, say, Pakistan. I would call it positive profiling. Others would call it racism. ;)

   
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« Reply #5 on: 06 May 2012, 08:12:08 »

I read Clarksons column yesterday and found it funny and so true. He was only saying what the rest of us non heart bleeding liberals think, a bit of common sense goes a long way. I can't remember the last time my BRITISH passport was checked, as for the rest I would check every bloody one including the EU, and if they have to wait 4 days so be it.  :y :y
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Re: Clarkson is right
« Reply #6 on: 06 May 2012, 10:09:16 »

 :y  Spot on with that comment mate.
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Re: Clarkson is right
« Reply #7 on: 06 May 2012, 10:10:39 »

I read Clarksons column yesterday and found it funny and so true. He was only saying what the rest of us non heart bleeding liberals think, a bit of common sense goes a long way. I can't remember the last time my BRITISH passport was checked, as for the rest I would check every bloody one including the EU, and if they have to wait 4 days so be it.  :y :y

Don't know where you travel outside the Uk, but I suspect checks are made on you if you provide API (advanced passenger info) to your airline. In other words they know that the person associated with your passport is on the move. Now what if it is a false passport.............
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Re: Clarkson is right
« Reply #8 on: 06 May 2012, 10:27:35 »

Clarkson for Prime Minster!
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Re: Clarkson is right
« Reply #9 on: 06 May 2012, 10:36:46 »

+1
but what he as said and what he means has yet again been taken out of context... :y
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Re: Clarkson is right
« Reply #10 on: 06 May 2012, 11:54:52 »

he is so bloody right  :y :y :y :y
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« Reply #11 on: 06 May 2012, 11:56:41 »

I read Clarksons column yesterday and found it funny and so true. He was only saying what the rest of us non heart bleeding liberals think, a bit of common sense goes a long way. I can't remember the last time my BRITISH passport was checked, as for the rest I would check every bloody one including the EU, and if they have to wait 4 days so be it.  :y :y

Don't know where you travel outside the Uk, but I suspect checks are made on you if you provide API (advanced passenger info) to your airline. In other words they know that the person associated with your passport is on the move. Now what if it is a false passport.............

I mean on returning to the Uk, they might take a cursory glance if that.
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« Reply #12 on: 06 May 2012, 12:34:05 »

Clarkson for Prime Minster!
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« Reply #13 on: 06 May 2012, 14:32:20 »

Peter Hitchens is absolutely spot on, on the same subject imo (towards the bottom of his column)>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2140023/David-Cameron-All-pillars-delusion-collapsed.html
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Re: Clarkson is right
« Reply #14 on: 06 May 2012, 17:42:10 »

It seems stupid to me. You have limited resources to do a job. Do you target those resources at the statistically more likely threats, or on stopping non-threats to balance your statistics to keep the bleeding hearts happy?  >:(

Politics these days.. ::) You can have any colour of limperal you like.
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