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[r1]

my mrs and my son always leave there phone charges in the wall sockets with the socket switched on even when there phones are not connected to them.now i say they are useing electric but they say they arent as they not connected so who is right?

[RobG]

Transformer in the adapter consumes power whether connected to phone or not

[the alarming man]

Well if the charger as a LED on it something is running the LED

[Entwood]

They are using less power than when charging, but are still using some power as the transformer circuit is active.

To use no power either unplug or switch off.

[RobG]

They are using less power than when charging, but are still using some power as the transformer circuit is active.

To use no power either unplug or switch off.

That`s what I said

[SIR Philbutt]

They are using power but afaik it is very small - under a tenner cost if it was plugged in 24/7 for a year

[SIR Philbutt]

looked it up it's even less

Electricity Consumption of Common Domestic Appliances.

http://www.willsmith.org/climatechange/domestic.html

1 unit = 1Kwh @ say 11p per unit

charger 1w / 24hrs not charging thats 24000 hrs per unit
8760 hrs per year = .36 units per year or 4p

not really worth an argument 

missed a zero - it's even less

[Sir Tigger KC]

Aah yes, but if everybody in the country leaves them on all the time that's an awful lot of power being wasted!!! 

[Varche]

looked it up it's even less

Electricity Consumption of Common Domestic Appliances.

http://www.willsmith.org/climatechange/domestic.html

1 unit = 1Kwh @ say 11p per unit

charger 1w / 24hrs not charging thats 2400 hrs per unit
8760 hrs per year = 3.6 units per year or 40p

not really worth an argument

Unless you rely on solar power, then these phantom power usages become a problem 

[Terbs]

This argument has gone on for ages with regards to equipment on 'standby'.
TiggerHayes is right....when you add the whole country in, it is a lot of power. But the 'powers that be' led a massive campaign, telling us that a tv on standby used 10% power......this was then denied by the experts as pure poppycock, and this is the conclusion that was posted by Phillbutt

[Dishevelled Den]

They are using less power than when charging, but are still using some power as the transformer circuit is active.

To use no power either unplug or switch off.

That`s what I said

I have a link to that;

Transformer in the adapter consumes power whether connected to phone or not

 

[RobG]

They are using less power than when charging, but are still using some power as the transformer circuit is active.

To use no power either unplug or switch off.

That`s what I said

I have a link to that;

Transformer in the adapter consumes power whether connected to phone or not

 

[geoffr70]

11p per kw/h, who the hell are you with?

[Dishevelled Den]

11p per kw/h, who the hell are you with?

Yes, almost 17p/KwH with the robbin' bastids here.

[Varche]

And when you add up all the transformers you have around the place I bet you most people pay a couple of quid a year.

2x Hands free phone, camera charger, 2 transformers for speakers on desktops, inside both desktops, eight TVs, set top decoders, Sky boxes?....................

No wonder some of my older relatives switch off AND unplug appliances to stop the electricity leaking away