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[SIR Philbutt]

One word - Epic 

[tunnie]

Thanks for the kind comments all 

excellent!!!
way back in my youth :'(we used to do stupid trips like this, however we were using triumph bonnies 650,Bsa lightnings 650, norton commando,s 750 etc  etc, we had to carry a comprehensive  toolkit with us in case of breakdowns!! !mind you then we fixed punctures at the side of the roads, as well as breakdowns, usually the points, or the carbs needing resetting,STILL ENJOYED IT THOUGH!!

well done Mark, glad you enjoyed it, tis more fun with another though!!

Yes, I did meet a bunch of bikers at Sleeperzzz, 7 of them all riding together.

Its been suggested few times before, but an OOF bike/alternative vehicle meet. Maybe try and make it into a little road trip if possible? Perhaps not Scotland as quite a lot of time would be needed for that, but do Wales?

I know Daz was interested, Albs get some use out of your bike? Bruce? Long haul for you, not sure if you can get your FJR down south by other means? 

I'm lucky with capacity on the GS for me to camp, but thats an issue for others, so we could B&B it?

I think it could be a riot if, we can get it organised.

[TheBoy]

Its been suggested few times before, but an OOF bike/alternative vehicle meet. Maybe try and make it into a little road trip if possible? Perhaps not Scotland as quite a lot of time would be needed for that, but do Wales?

I know Daz was interested, Albs get some use out of your bike? Bruce? Long haul for you, not sure if you can get your FJR down south by other means? 

I think you are forgetting that many riders, rightly or wrongly, will want to go an awful lot faster than you.  To give you some idea, as you really seem to be struggling with the concept, I am a very slow rider .  You are probably looking for riders happy enough to poodle along, and be perfectly happy sitting behind traffic.

IMHO, if you end up with a group where some want to rag the thing everywhere, and make short work of traffic, along with the poodlers, everyone will be frustrated, as the fast riders will get frustrated constantly waiting, and the poodlers will get frustrated, maybe embarrassed, not keeping up. And this is when accidents tend to happen.

Again, to reiterate, whilst you may think that GS is quick, it really isn't. Its quite agricultural.  In that rider scale from Poodler to Fast, just so you know, IME, I'd put myself at the upper end of Poodler.  I feel I have to drum this home, as you've told me before to take it a bit slower.


Hope that makes sense, and in no way a critism to your/mine/anyone's riding style.  Just ensure you get like minded people from a riding style point of view

[tunnie]

Understood 

Part of the speed is my lack of experience, I passed in 2009 on the bike but if you add up actual bike hours its probably no more than a month or two of actual riding experience. But at the end of the day, I enjoy doing 80mph on the bike. Fast riders on their crotch rockets maybe faster on the corners & off the line, but I bet they would not be so fast after 400 miles 

Going to Scotland, I made progress overtaking any car at the earliest opportunity. Over the whole time I was up there, not a single biker overtook me 

Be nice for someone like Bruce to comment on my riding, but if there is no will for a meet of this type 

[Andy B]

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In that rider scale from Poodler to Fa..

That'll make me in the slow poodler bracket then ....... 

[TheBoy]

Be nice for someone like Bruce to comment on my riding

IHMO and IME, there is little wrong. I think you ride quite well now, less and less of those 'moments' that used to plague your riding, and cause me to fill my pants. Experience.


That wasn't my point. Riders are all different, and for a group run, they all need to be similar.  I also doubt many riders will be happy spending hours on the M1/A1, poodling along at 80. Some will, rightly or wrongly, be wanting a) non stop corners, b) wanting to sit at 130+ all day every day. And yes, these would cover 400 miles far, far quicker than you


Nothing wrong at all with your steady, conservative riding . But I can see it being frustrating for the TMNT boyz...

[TheBoy]

..... 
In that rider scale from Poodler to Fa..

That'll make me in the slow poodler bracket then ....... 

How comes? You have no idea on my riding I imagine  .  Remember, I've had to put my concerns into tunnie-world, where 85mph on a straight on a bike is just reckless

[tunnie]

Be nice for someone like Bruce to comment on my riding

Nothing wrong at all with your steady, conservative riding . But I can see it being frustrating for the TMNT boyz...

Depends who wants to do it?

The group of bikers I meet at Rogart, could not have had a more different fleet.

There was a Bandit, VFR, 1200RT, brand spankers Pan & one of those new fully automatic big bikes.

I'm fairly sure most here are not interested in out right speed, or maybe they are 

[feeutfo]

These "groups" of riders tend to work themselves out IME, and eventually tend to ride with people they feel happ with. Experience and average speed being key factors.

Absolute prime concern is not to be drawn in to exceeding ones own limits. Which is less likely to happen riding with similar minded riders.

Personally I can't think of anything worse than plodding up the M1. Although a more comfy, longer range bike would help. But then play time up there would no compromised... Massively compromised. But there we are. Each to thier own as they say.

Happy biking.