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Started by RobG, 01 June 2012, 11:34:52

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RobG

Inserted an empty cartridge and it doesn`t eject, no noises heard when button is pressed. Had fascia off and took some pics.
Can someone confirm that the button highlighted in first 2 pics "energises" the eject mechanism


As you can see in this pic, when "eject" is pressed flap opens and makes contact with this button but no ejection. Any ideas :-\
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mathewst

Can't see much but are the lines leading to the switch dammaged(Two lines on the board with something white on them)?

TheBoy

The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Grumpy old man

RobG

Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 12:01:35
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
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TheBoy

Quote from: RobG on 01 June 2012, 12:07:07
Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 12:01:35
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
The clips holding the facia to main unit look a bit naff. Just try it again, ensuring the facia connector makes good connection.
Grumpy old man

RobG

Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 15:25:04
Quote from: RobG on 01 June 2012, 12:07:07
Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 12:01:35
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
The clips holding the facia to main unit look a bit naff. Just try it again, ensuring the facia connector makes good connection.
All clips are in excellent nick except one on the side that is held with a screw :P ;D
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TheBoy

Quote from: RobG on 01 June 2012, 15:59:16
Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 15:25:04
Quote from: RobG on 01 June 2012, 12:07:07
Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 12:01:35
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
The clips holding the facia to main unit look a bit naff. Just try it again, ensuring the facia connector makes good connection.
All clips are in excellent nick except one on the side that is held with a screw :P ;D
Ah, not easy to tell from pic - it looked like both centre clips were broken...
Grumpy old man

RobG

Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 16:01:36
Quote from: RobG on 01 June 2012, 15:59:16
Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 15:25:04
Quote from: RobG on 01 June 2012, 12:07:07
Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 12:01:35
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
The clips holding the facia to main unit look a bit naff. Just try it again, ensuring the facia connector makes good connection.
All clips are in excellent nick except one on the side that is held with a screw :P ;D
Ah, not easy to tell from pic - it looked like both centre clips were broken...
:) Any ideas then bearing in mind I`ve tried another CDC and that won`t eject either
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TheBoy

You'll have to investigate switch then :)
Grumpy old man

TheBoy

Is this the one that was tested with no screen attached, but is paired to one?  That might be adding a complication ;)
Grumpy old man

RobG

Quote from: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 16:09:35
Is this the one that was tested with no screen attached, but is paired to one?  That might be adding a complication ;)
Certainly is. According to Andy (VXLV6) cartridge should eject when HU is powered up regardless whether display is present or not.
Just the screws holding the board on :-\ :-\
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VXL V6

Only point to note is the Head unit may need to be powered up for a minute before you can eject. I know when the units start up the Nav drive does various scans and seeks and you can't eject the disk until this is has completed, the multi changer usually does a scan of the discs in the cartridge IIRC.... this is of course assuming that the CDC3 knows it has a cartridge loaded....

RobG

Quote from: VXL V6 on 01 June 2012, 19:01:04
Only point to note is the Head unit may need to be powered up for a minute before you can eject. I know when the units start up the Nav drive does various scans and seeks and you can't eject the disk until this is has completed, the multi changer usually does a scan of the discs in the cartridge IIRC.... this is of course assuming that the CDC3 knows it has a cartridge loaded....
No problem ejecting from nav slot. CDC knows there`s a cartridge in, can hear it scanning for discs, problem being it won`t eject
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VXL V6

Quote from: RobG on 01 June 2012, 19:24:19
Quote from: VXL V6 on 01 June 2012, 19:01:04
Only point to note is the Head unit may need to be powered up for a minute before you can eject. I know when the units start up the Nav drive does various scans and seeks and you can't eject the disk until this is has completed, the multi changer usually does a scan of the discs in the cartridge IIRC.... this is of course assuming that the CDC3 knows it has a cartridge loaded....
No problem ejecting from nav slot. CDC knows there`s a cartridge in, can hear it scanning for discs, problem being it won`t eject
Is the cartridge ok? the screws tend to loosen on them and they then jam in the mechanism.

There is a method of winding the CDC mechanism to eject the cartridge manually but it's really easy to wind to far and then your in a whole world of pain to try and get the mechanism back!

I still think the issue is that the unit isn't getting a signal from the eject switch.

RobG

Quote from: VXL V6 on 01 June 2012, 21:30:55
Quote from: RobG on 01 June 2012, 19:24:19
Quote from: VXL V6 on 01 June 2012, 19:01:04
Only point to note is the Head unit may need to be powered up for a minute before you can eject. I know when the units start up the Nav drive does various scans and seeks and you can't eject the disk until this is has completed, the multi changer usually does a scan of the discs in the cartridge IIRC.... this is of course assuming that the CDC3 knows it has a cartridge loaded....
No problem ejecting from nav slot. CDC knows there`s a cartridge in, can hear it scanning for discs, problem being it won`t eject
Is the cartridge ok? the screws tend to loosen on them and they then jam in the mechanism.

There is a method of winding the CDC mechanism to eject the cartridge manually but it's really easy to wind to far and then your in a whole world of pain to try and get the mechanism back!

I still think the issue is that the unit isn't getting a signal from the eject switch.
Tried 2 cartridges.
Fascia off & remove board jobbie is it. :-\ Alright if you know what you`re looking for ;D ;D ::) :-[
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