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Ooops metal petrol can
« on: 07 June 2012, 08:51:50 »

I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.

Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.

I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum.  ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?
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Re: Ooops metal petrol can
« Reply #1 on: 07 June 2012, 09:02:05 »

Still no issues with metal cans over here... I use them all the time :y
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« Reply #2 on: 07 June 2012, 09:05:20 »

I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.

Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum.  ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?



Hmmmm, what about a spark between the filler nozzle and the pipe on your petrol tamk in a car. Last time I checked they are all metal. Maybe a bit insulated, but after a few years of road dirt on them must be the same I would have thought. And no tyres will not insulate the car contrary to popular belief.
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Re: Ooops metal petrol can
« Reply #3 on: 07 June 2012, 09:06:44 »

my metal can ended up self draining, so now use green for unleaded and diesel.
theoretically a spark will light the petrol , - but it all comes down to the fire triangle- ignition source, fuel, air -- so the vapour will have to be within its flaamability limits ( ruffly 4-9%- will chack later -as I'm supposed to know these things!),
having said that petrol tankers earth before transferring,
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« Reply #4 on: 07 June 2012, 11:01:45 »

Utter bollacts!  ....ahem...

Surely that can't be right?  :-X
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Re: Ooops metal petrol can
« Reply #5 on: 07 June 2012, 11:11:44 »

As someone said on another thread. Everytime you start your car there is a spark.
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Re: Ooops metal petrol can
« Reply #6 on: 07 June 2012, 11:13:02 »

If they think it's that much of an issue why don't they provide an earthing wire to connect before filling?

(as is the case when refuelling aircraft)

As said, if it's an issue with a can, it's much more of an issue with a car which, being larger, will store a much greater charge. ;D
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Re: Ooops metal petrol can
« Reply #7 on: 07 June 2012, 11:20:15 »

We regularly fill up the green metal jerry can for the MotoX bike. Nobody has ever said anything to us.  :-\

Actually, during the run up to the petrol strike, I saw loads of people on the news using the old jerry cans.  :-\
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« Reply #8 on: 07 June 2012, 11:26:51 »

Indeed. Been using them for years on track days.

In fact, I'd still say they are dangerous to use. But due to expansion and over filling, and spilages caused, rather than a spark.
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« Reply #9 on: 07 June 2012, 11:33:49 »

We regularly fill up the green metal jerry can for the MotoX bike. Nobody has ever said anything to us.  :-\

Actually, during the run up to the petrol strike, I saw loads of people on the news using the old jerry cans.  :-\

But were you doing it in Spain? ;)
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Re: Ooops metal petrol can
« Reply #10 on: 07 June 2012, 11:39:53 »

We regularly fill up the green metal jerry can for the MotoX bike. Nobody has ever said anything to us.  :-\

Actually, during the run up to the petrol strike, I saw loads of people on the news using the old jerry cans.  :-\

But were you doing it in Spain? ;)

Errrrr.................no.  ;) ;D ;D  Perhaps they are stricter over there, so fair point.  :y  Obviously with the seriousness involved, this is not something to take lightly.
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Re: Ooops metal petrol can
« Reply #11 on: 07 June 2012, 12:58:06 »

Strange, as the Spanish are very laid back but here a lot of people buy small quantities of fuel at stations for generators and small farm machinery and so on. Presumably they have had spectacular accicdents in the past. Hence having some legislation. I dare say if they had an accident it might have been something other than a spark, ciggy maybe.? Mind you when we were kids our older neighbours party trick was to throw his tab end into his BSA500 petrol tank as he sat on the bike. It never once exploded. ;D
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« Reply #12 on: 07 June 2012, 13:06:07 »

Strange, as the Spanish are very laid back but here a lot of people buy small quantities of fuel at stations for generators and small farm machinery and so on. Presumably they have had spectacular accicdents in the past. Hence having some legislation. I dare say if they had an accident it might have been something other than a spark, ciggy maybe.? Mind you when we were kids our older neighbours party trick was to throw his tab end into his BSA500 petrol tank as he sat on the bike. It never once exploded. ;D

It is no trick, a lit cigarette is not hot enough to ignite petrol vapour, now the match or lighter is hot enough  ;D  Think that is why they say no smoking around fuel. Because average human can't tell the difference.

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Re: Ooops metal petrol can
« Reply #13 on: 07 June 2012, 14:05:27 »

And making the light alloy (aluminium?) nozzle to spark  :-\ No way.

The material of the nozzles is for sure some non-sparking material so no matter what material your tank/container/whatever is there will not be any issues  :y
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« Reply #14 on: 07 June 2012, 15:04:59 »

I did wonder... Given the old fashioned self service... That an old fashioned steel nozel might be in use...?
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