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can you find his mistake ?

Started by cem_devecioglu, 20 July 2012, 11:20:10

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waspy

Yes. He needs to straighten out his number plate & buy a new driver's seat ;D

waspy

He's only sprayed the panel & not blended it in with the surrounding panels.

There's now a shade difference.

omega3000

Spraying too close for even finnish .
Looks like he dry sanded first.
Thought you should flatten the paint before clear coat .

:-\


Quote from: DILLIGAF Pete on 20 July 2012, 11:42:40
Yes. He needs to straighten out his number plate & buy a new driver's seat ;D

;D ;D

twiglet

It's a solid colour.  Why would you lacquer it when the rest of the car isn't?  :-\
It doesn't matter how far you push the envelope, it will always be stationery...

waspy

Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 15:32:42
It's a solid colour.  Why would you lacquer it when the rest of the car isn't?  :-\

What happens to red cars if they're not laquered? Especially out in a hot country ;)

cem_devecioglu

Quote from: DILLIGAF Pete on 20 July 2012, 11:52:21
1.He's only sprayed the panel & not blended it in with the surrounding panels.

2.There's now a shade difference.

1. yes.. actually he made critical mistakes..blending with a surrounding panel is a must.. because even if you apply exact number of layers (original) and exactly same color tone, because of hvlp gun difference and the electrostatic property of panels are different final paint will be a different shade and will be visible to even untrained eyes..

better practice is to sand whole panel until primary coat..so you can achieve at least same number of color layers so you can get a closer tone even if not same (remember spray cans is not same with hvlp ).. then you can apply 2-3 layers which will be more closer to original.. and then blend in..

2. definitely..

and besides most colors fade under sun so you need to check your prepared color with test cards before you start painting.. I have seen awkward paint tones applied on expensive cars many times.. :(

cem_devecioglu

as an example my clit is painted completely except the roof .. the same day with the same gun and with the same prepared color same number of layers by the same painter.. but when I look carefully I can see a very slight difference on panels having different sizes..

twiglet

Quote from: DILLIGAF Pete on 20 July 2012, 18:14:36
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 15:32:42
It's a solid colour.  Why would you lacquer it when the rest of the car isn't?  :-\

What happens to red cars if they're not laquered? Especially out in a hot country ;)

Totally agree Pete, but if the wing is lacquered and the rest of the car isn't...  :-\
It doesn't matter how far you push the envelope, it will always be stationery...

cem_devecioglu

Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 19:14:23
Quote from: DILLIGAF Pete on 20 July 2012, 18:14:36
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 15:32:42
It's a solid colour.  Why would you lacquer it when the rest of the car isn't?  :-\

What happens to red cars if they're not laquered? Especially out in a hot country ;)

Totally agree Pete, but if the wing is lacquered and the rest of the car isn't...  :-\


normally laquer is directly added to non metallic paints mixture.. but cant predict what these aerosols  ;D  include ;D :-X

feeutfo

Cem. It's high time you did a guide. :)

twiglet

Quote from: cem on 20 July 2012, 19:17:20
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 19:14:23
Quote from: DILLIGAF Pete on 20 July 2012, 18:14:36
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 15:32:42
It's a solid colour.  Why would you lacquer it when the rest of the car isn't?  :-\

What happens to red cars if they're not laquered? Especially out in a hot country ;)

Totally agree Pete, but if the wing is lacquered and the rest of the car isn't...  :-\


normally laquer is directly added to non metallic paints mixture.. but cant predict what these aerosols  ;D  include ;D :-X

My point exactly.  :y  Although when he was sanding it, the original paint looked pretty soft to me.  Obviously not that easy to tell via a video though.
It doesn't matter how far you push the envelope, it will always be stationery...

cem_devecioglu

Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 19:24:08
Quote from: cem on 20 July 2012, 19:17:20
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 19:14:23
Quote from: DILLIGAF Pete on 20 July 2012, 18:14:36
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 15:32:42
It's a solid colour.  Why would you lacquer it when the rest of the car isn't?  :-\

What happens to red cars if they're not laquered? Especially out in a hot country ;)

Totally agree Pete, but if the wing is lacquered and the rest of the car isn't...  :-\


normally laquer is directly added to non metallic paints mixture.. but cant predict what these aerosols  ;D  include ;D :-X

My point exactly.  :y  Although when he was sanding it, the original paint looked pretty soft to me.  Obviously not that easy to tell via a video though.

also its easier to wipe scratches from non metallic paint (by sanding/polishing) unless you deal with deep stone chips  :y

twiglet

Quote from: cem on 20 July 2012, 19:26:50
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 19:24:08
Quote from: cem on 20 July 2012, 19:17:20
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 19:14:23
Quote from: DILLIGAF Pete on 20 July 2012, 18:14:36
Quote from: twiglet on 20 July 2012, 15:32:42
It's a solid colour.  Why would you lacquer it when the rest of the car isn't?  :-\

What happens to red cars if they're not laquered? Especially out in a hot country ;)

Totally agree Pete, but if the wing is lacquered and the rest of the car isn't...  :-\


normally laquer is directly added to non metallic paints mixture.. but cant predict what these aerosols  ;D  include ;D :-X

My point exactly.  :y  Although when he was sanding it, the original paint looked pretty soft to me.  Obviously not that easy to tell via a video though.

also its easier to wipe scratches from non metallic paint (by sanding/polishing) unless you deal with deep stone chips  :y

Agreed, as long as the scratch hasn't gone right through the paint and into the primer, some patient sanding and polishing can remove them completely.  Far easier than repainting.  :y
It doesn't matter how far you push the envelope, it will always be stationery...