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[the alarming man]

Thank you for replies and expressions of sympathy.

We are not on a witch hunt, just want to be sure that all that could be done was done. We can’t help but feel at the moment that even if he had got pneumonia there was still an underlying heart problem.

Would “Pneumococcal antigen, shows negative” suggest no pneumonia?

i think it would suggest no meningitus....you really need to find a no win no fee lawyer who specialise in medical cases even if only to give you and the wife closure as its been a long time since i was in a medical role and these guys are trained in all this

[D]

Thank you for replies and expressions of sympathy.

We are not on a witch hunt, just want to be sure that all that could be done was done. We can’t help but feel at the moment that even if he had got pneumonia there was still an underlying heart problem.

Would “Pneumococcal antigen, shows negative” suggest no pneumonia?

No it wouldn't. There are various types of pneumonia. The negative antigen means one of three things. Its truly negative. It is falsely negative (tiny percentage of this happening). Or you still have a pneumonia, but it is one of the 35+ other bugs that might be causing it. The more atypical the bug, the more the possibility of other organ involvement. The antigen test is quite expensive, so a lot of hospitals don't use it.

Most people over the age of 50 will have some furring of their coronary arteries. If you then have a risk factor (i.e.: smoking current or past, weight, diabetes, family history, hypertension etc) the chances of having narrowed arteries are even higher. In general a pneumonic illness is an ilness with a significant mortality even in a younger population group. It can and often does cause significant heart strain. Now if you imagine someone who is older, with 2 organs failing, then the mortality is very high. Hence my first post. Difficult to comment any more without more info. Ask if you need any other info.

BTW, nothing to do with meningitis as suggested by someone else.

[Figureman52]

I feel this information is really helping.

There were Blood cultures done.

Aerobic Blood Culture           No growth after 5 days incubation
Anaerobic Blood Culture           No growth after 5 days incubation
Culture            No growth after 5 days incubation

The same results were found from a sample taken on the date of his death.

Could he still have had pneumonia?

[Figureman52]

Might be a idea to get your 15 minutes of free legal aid or even Pm Guffer 
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How can Guffer help?

[tigers_gonads]

Might be a idea to get your 15 minutes of free legal aid or even Pm Guffer 

How can Guffer help?
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Iirc, he is a medical type person 


Tbh, I think "D" sums it up perfectly 

Last month, I Had to look after a good mate who had to watch his uncle pass away.
He had had a stroke in the past, high blood presure and then ended up with pneumonia which finally finished him off. 

A week later, my uncle died threw complications due to severe dementia 

At the end of the day, the body can only take so much hammer before it lets go 

Sorry for your loss mate.
I really am 

[Gaffers]

Sorry for your loss

I believe the question has been answered, if you have any concerns then you'll have to take the notes to a medical lawyer who will be able to interpret them for you

[D]

I feel this information is really helping.

There were Blood cultures done.

Aerobic Blood Culture           No growth after 5 days incubation
Anaerobic Blood Culture           No growth after 5 days incubation
Culture            No growth after 5 days incubation

The same results were found from a sample taken on the date of his death.

Could he still have had pneumonia?

Cultures can be negative, because of various reasons including primary pick up rates of less than 80%. Got any CRP values or WBC or neutrophil counts? They may help.

[Figureman52]

I feel this information is really helping.

There were Blood cultures done.

Aerobic Blood Culture           No growth after 5 days incubation
Anaerobic Blood Culture           No growth after 5 days incubation
Culture            No growth after 5 days incubation

The same results were found from a sample taken on the date of his death.

Could he still have had pneumonia?

Cultures can be negative, because of various reasons including primary pick up rates of less than 80%. Got any CRP values or WBC or neutrophil counts? They may help.

Values taken about 5 hours before his heart attack.

WBC: 8.40 10E9/L
C-Reactive Protein: 82 mg/L
Neutrophils: 6.0 10E9/L