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Started by omega3000, 13 August 2012, 16:35:08

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omega3000

Ive been looking for ages to fine out how this is done , my daughters car needs doing but unsure if it has 2 CV boots like one inner and one outer ..this looks like i can tackle it if its on the outer ... she has a 03 corsa , anyone know if it has an inner cv ...if so can this still be done with the cone trick or does the driveshaft have to come out  :-\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvBXU54cWYs

b4ndit

Think you will find the inner c.v.gaiters are different to outer and not possible to do with the cone :y

henryd

Probably the easiest way is to remove the outer cv joint and boot and slide the inner boot off that end and fit the new one,if it has a harmonic damper fitted then that won't work though :-\
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omega3000

Quote from: henryd on 13 August 2012, 17:17:39
Probably the easiest way is to remove the outer cv joint and boot and slide the inner boot off that end and fit the new one,if it has a harmonic damper fitted then that won't work though :-\

Argh too technical for me ...whats that  :-\

Brikhead

Quote from: EMD on 13 August 2012, 20:52:18
Quote from: henryd on 13 August 2012, 17:17:39
Probably the easiest way is to remove the outer cv joint and boot and slide the inner boot off that end and fit the new one,if it has a harmonic damper fitted then that won't work though :-\

Argh too technical for me ...whats that  :-\

Harmonic damper is just a rubber 'do-nut' fixed mid way along the drive shaft, it'll stop you from sliding the inner boot into position.

The drive shaft should be easy enough to pop out once disconnected at the hub end, why are you reluctant?

mantahatch

3 things in that video. 1 I have never seen someone struggle so much to remove the old boot. 2 it seemed like a lot of effort to slide the new one on. 3 he does not clean out the old grease before inserting new grease, if it is overfilled it is quite likely to split or blow off the new one he has just fitted.

I will stick to the correct way, and after watching that the correct way is easier, all you need is a pair of circlip pliers and soft mallet. Oh yes and then it is nice and easy to do the inner.

Failing that buy the split type.

omega3000

Quote from: Mantahatch on 13 August 2012, 23:21:10
3 things in that video. 1 I have never seen someone struggle so much to remove the old boot. 2 it seemed like a lot of effort to slide the new one on. 3 he does not clean out the old grease before inserting new grease, if it is overfilled it is quite likely to split or blow off the new one he has just fitted.

I will stick to the correct way, and after watching that the correct way is easier, all you need is a pair of circlip pliers and soft mallet. Oh yes and then it is nice and easy to do the inner.

Failing that buy the split type.

How doe that work , if its split does that mean it has to be glued back together or something ?

Quote from: Brikhead on 13 August 2012, 23:12:40
Quote from: EMD on 13 August 2012, 20:52:18
Quote from: henryd on 13 August 2012, 17:17:39
Probably the easiest way is to remove the outer cv joint and boot and slide the inner boot off that end and fit the new one,if it has a harmonic damper fitted then that won't work though :-\

Argh too technical for me ...whats that  :-\

Harmonic damper is just a rubber 'do-nut' fixed mid way along the drive shaft, it'll stop you from sliding the inner boot into position.

The drive shaft should be easy enough to pop out once disconnected at the hub end, why are you reluctant?


Never took a drive shaft out before and not as fit due to health reasons , wont want to tackle taking the shaft out if it becomes to much of a struggle and end up with it in bits not being able to put back together as daughter will need the car back on the road the same day , if its just a case of a few bolts to undo without too much agro and no specialist tools ill have a go  :)

jonnyboyws6

Inner CVs on some Corsas are a funny fluted shape not round, so universal stretchy boots dont fit.

mantahatch


omega3000

Excellent , thanks Mantahatch  :y

dbug

Quote from: Mantahatch on 14 August 2012, 09:53:41
This type of thing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Split-CV-Joint-Driveshaft-Boot-Gaiter-Kit-NEW-EASY-FIT-DESIGN-/350538957860?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item519dc00424 but bear in mind there are many makers and different types of joining including bolting and glueing.

Used this type on an old 8 series Rover a few years back - you must keep the new boot clean and oil free when fitting to allow the glue to work. Also care needed to ensure sealed completely along its length.
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omega3000

Quote from: dbug on 14 August 2012, 17:00:45
Quote from: Mantahatch on 14 August 2012, 09:53:41
This type of thing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Split-CV-Joint-Driveshaft-Boot-Gaiter-Kit-NEW-EASY-FIT-DESIGN-/350538957860?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item519dc00424 but bear in mind there are many makers and different types of joining including bolting and glueing.

Used this type on an old 8 series Rover a few years back - you must keep the new boot clean and oil free when fitting to allow the glue to work. Also care needed to ensure sealed completely along its length.

:y

So using this glue on method will just mean taking the wheel off then cutting the old boot off and re gluing
the new one on ...simples , no spanners required  :y

Lazydocker

TBH, I've never had a lot of luck (long term) with the split/glue method or a cone. Removing the CV joint is simple and, IMHO, the only way to do the job properly :y
Whatever it is... I didn't do it

henryd

Quote from: Lazydocker on 14 August 2012, 19:41:54
TBH, I've never had a lot of luck (long term) with the split/glue method or a cone. Removing the CV joint is simple and, IMHO, the only way to do the job properly :y

I agree,It will probably stay leak free long enough to get through the test but thats about it :-\
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omega3000

Quote from: Lazydocker on 14 August 2012, 19:41:54
TBH, I've never had a lot of luck (long term) with the split/glue method or a cone. Removing the CV joint is simple and, IMHO, the only way to do the job properly :y

:(

I think she just wants it doing for the mot then selling the car so will have a go at the stick on one  :y