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[waspy]

Looks like the end of all modified cars now & for the future

KCUF the EU & the quicker we tell them so the better.

http://www.the-ace.org.uk/armageddon/

http://ec.europa.eu/transport/doc/roadworthiness-package/com(2012)380.pdf

[ozzycat]

  load of 'dangle berries' the them to breakoff

[Varche]

It doesn't surprise me at all. Individuality doesn't sit well in a society increasingly designed for drones.

There are a lot of things people are still able to do to cars in Britain that you aren't able to do in Spain.  For example tyres. The only fitments are those specified by the manufacturer as original fitment. No putting 18 inch wheels on an Omega with 40 profile tyres. It would fail the annual MOT. Another is just because one model had a feature e.g. bull bar on a 4x4 if it isn't on your V5 log book for the car then it fails the MOT.   

[Crazycarzowner]

Suppose that would render LPG conversions useless too then??? 

[Kevin Wood]

That EU document is the most long winded load of nothingness I've ever read. We're really getting our money's worth out of them.

Don't forget their proposal for 2 yearly MOT testing that got binned.

Proposals for testing caravans and trailers have been kicked into the long grass time and time again.

If it does happen, though it'll be thanks to the chavs running round with dangerous aftermarket HIDs, ridiculous lowering mods and de-catted exhaust systems, I'm afraid. Something has to be done about the minority of "modded" cars that have been altered so incompetently that they are a danger. I also don't disagree that a car should meet the standards it left the factory with. There's just no need to disable air bags, ABS, etc., reduce emissions performance and so on. If you are going to modify a car, do it to a decent standard. That said, if this legislation is what it's being trumped up to be (and no way of telling by reading the load of waffle posted) it will go further than that.

[Del Boy]

Complete idiots, 'free country', what a joke!  .

[jimac]

This is pretty much what has already been proposed for motorcycles, and against which there have been numerous demonstrations.  The biking community have been saying all along that it would be coming for cars as well.

Maybe time for some joined up campaigns!

[aaronjb]

http://fbhvc.co.uk/2012/08/23/eu-roadworthiness-testing/

[Kevin Wood]

I would imagine there's quite a bit of business in the industries surrounding modifying cars, classic cars, kit cars and the like in this country.

There are also quite obviously huge flaws in the proposed legislation, i.e. how to you get a car manufacturer that went out of business 30 years ago to declare what size jets should be fitted in one of their carbs?

The combination of the above should prompt the UK government to throw it out, of course.

I expect quite an uproar if they don't.

[SMD]

I can't see this happening for so many reasons, I don't know where to begin. How will they police it? Also would this mean I can't fit late Elite wheels to my early facelift Elite?

[biggriffin]

What you have to think is
 if the eurocracts"whoops" Germans "whoops" 4th Reich want to bring a law in they just do it as Europeans are still scared of Germany,due to its wealth and control of the euro.
. Won't happen here due to the ammount of jobs there are in the classic/modified industry.

[Varche]

I can't see this happening for so many reasons, I don't know where to begin. How will they police it? Also would this mean I can't fit late Elite wheels to my early facelift Elite?

Yes. You cannot in Spain. I had the devils own job when I registered my UK spec Elite. But fortunately had the handbook in the glove compartment with wheel and tyre sizes that the car left the factory with. The inspector at first said they were none standard fitment. Couldn't even have W as opposed to V rated tyres either as they weren't "listed". Barmy as they are standard on the 3.0 Elite.

[maracus]

Minds at rest for now at least...

http://pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=26260

[tunnie]

All comes down to money in the end, if it was free to implement, no doubt it would be allowed in.

But as we are broke & it costs money to implement & police we are saying no 

[feeutfo]

Politicians involving themselves in practical applications.


Think of the mentality these people have after reading about that idiot mp and his wheel nuts. Ill informed, arrogance from someone who has not the first clue in common sense to even THINK about asking a question about a fault on a car without sounding like the total moron that he is.
An attitude thats makes me believe he'll be quite happy to stand up in parliament and and ban removable wheels from cars completely. Then do the same thing again to bring in legislation to allow wheel removal the first time he has a rather puncture.
Arseholes in Beemers the lot of em. Line em up against a wall.


Then, look at the other end of the scale, and the guy round the corner from me who decided to fit wheel spacers between the wheel and hub without making the wheel bolts longer. Then wonderd why his left front wheel fell off at the first roundabout.
 
It's these sorts of things, as Kevin has said so often, that will f@ck it up for the rest of us. While the perpetrators carry on regardless of any rules or sense what so ever.

Morons at the top of the pile, morons at the bottom. Can we lock them in a room to deal with each other, and leave the rest of us the hell alone.