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I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« on: 04 September 2012, 13:34:33 »

I've got a good base of concrete down and just have to lay the screed on top, which I was planning on doing tomorrow.  Trouble is while sweeping it today I noticed that the concrete still seems a bit damp... :-\

Should I wait a few more days for it to dry out properly or will it be OK to lay the screed as is?  ???

I've never done this before and it's a bit of a learning curve!!  ::) Thanks!!  :y
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #1 on: 04 September 2012, 13:38:42 »

You should allow one week per cm thickness of concrete, up to 4 cm. Allow twice as much time for the remaining thickness more than 4 cm. In other words, for a thickness of 6 cm, you must allow minimum (4 x 1) + (2 x 2) = 8 weeks drying time. For concrete thicker than 6 cm, allow 4 weeks drying time per additional cm.
Don`t forget a membrane must be laid between the sub-floor concrete and the screed.
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #2 on: 04 September 2012, 14:22:02 »

you dont have to lay a membrane between the base and the sceed the screed is only a self leveling top coat
the building co iwas plant eng never laid one under the screed but did between the substrait  &base coat of concrete
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #3 on: 04 September 2012, 14:46:24 »

You should allow one week per cm thickness of concrete, up to 4 cm. Allow twice as much time for the remaining thickness more than 4 cm. In other words, for a thickness of 6 cm, you must allow minimum (4 x 1) + (2 x 2) = 8 weeks drying time. For concrete thicker than 6 cm, allow 4 weeks drying time per additional cm.
Don`t forget a membrane must be laid between the sub-floor concrete and the screed.

Robg , is there any code or standard for that mix ? (I guess probably this is the standard mix which is sold publicly in UK)
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #4 on: 04 September 2012, 14:53:14 »

Screed mix is generally 3 parts sharp sand to 1 part cement but you can go to 4:1 or at a push 5:1
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« Reply #5 on: 04 September 2012, 14:56:54 »

Screed mix is generally 3 parts sharp sand to 1 part cement but you can go to 4:1 or at a push 5:1

in oil wells there were some special mixtures that dry quickly but very expensive.. nowadays there are also some "quick" mixes around but I cant  trust them :-\
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #7 on: 04 September 2012, 14:59:27 »

You should allow one week per cm thickness of concrete, up to 4 cm. Allow twice as much time for the remaining thickness more than 4 cm. In other words, for a thickness of 6 cm, you must allow minimum (4 x 1) + (2 x 2) = 8 weeks drying time. For concrete thicker than 6 cm, allow 4 weeks drying time per additional cm.
Don`t forget a membrane must be laid between the sub-floor concrete and the screed.

Is this drying time or time to reach full structural integrity ?
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #8 on: 04 September 2012, 16:25:40 »

membrane DPM is normally under concrete slab but if i am say converting a gargage on an existing slab i do put one between the new screed as well as insullation  :y

whats the concrete floor for Tigger not that i will tell you when to lay the screed i am just nosey ;D ;D

we normally wait at least 4 weeks but then there are always other things to do RobG calcs probably spot on

plus coat the slab in unibon/pva the white gooey sticky stuff :o :o :o before you lay the screed

screed mix is a bit of an open bag  normally i use 4 : 1 although others say 3 or 5 :1

we are just laying a screed now and got a ready mix company in only a cubic metre @ £175 but time you pay for materials and labour to knock it up etc bloody good price me thinks plus they can put a retarder in it to delay it going hard if you want ::) :o
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #9 on: 04 September 2012, 16:33:09 »

oh yes and if it is a big area dont get the ready mix with the drum get the big lorry that mixes on site you only pay for what you use :y
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #10 on: 04 September 2012, 16:39:13 »

oh yes and if it is a big area dont get the ready mix with the drum get the big lorry that mixes on site you only pay for what you use :y
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #11 on: 04 September 2012, 16:40:44 »

If I have learnt anything out here it is that if you are intending on putting anything heavy on the concrete wait at least 28 days.  You may have problems otherwise ::)
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« Reply #12 on: 04 September 2012, 16:44:02 »

If I have learnt anything out here it is that if you are intending on putting anything heavy on the concrete wait at least 28 days.  You may have problems otherwise ::)

did not think you were that fat heavy well built ;D ;D mind you you l;ook good in shorts you beast :-*
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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #13 on: 04 September 2012, 16:47:24 »

If I have learnt anything out here it is that if you are intending on putting anything heavy on the concrete wait at least 28 days.  You may have problems otherwise ::)

did not think you were that fat heavy well built ;D ;D mind you you l;ook good in shorts you beast :-*

I'm 3 stone lighter than you last saw me, tubs  :-*

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Re: I'm laying a concrete floor.....
« Reply #14 on: 04 September 2012, 20:34:03 »

Thanks for all the replies!!  :y

It's a lounge floor, so nothing too heavy will go on it....  ::)  Well...  ;D

I've got the DPM underneath the concrete slab.  Why do you coat the slab with PVA Paul? does it provide another layer of damp proofing?  :-\

I'm going to put laminate on it when it's done, so I guess another few weeks drying before I do that?  ::)

Thanks again!!  :y :y :y
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