Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Search the maintenance guides for answers to 99.999% of Omega questions

Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Failing pre cats.  (Read 2368 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

ted_one

  • Guest
Failing pre cats.
« on: 06 September 2012, 14:19:40 »

A little while ago I posted up for advice on my 3.2 as the EML had come on and the code reader confirmed reduced effeciency with the pre cats and the advice given was to relocate the Lambda sensors,which has proven easier said than done,tried a few local garages and all I got was "not interested mate" So have decided against trying to get the job done and will instead opt for replacing the pre cats,so I really could do with a bit of advice on suppliers other than VX dealers as I'm getting fed up with that big EML staring back at me all the time :-\
Logged

Lazydocker

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Woodbridge, Suffolk
  • Posts: 18848
  • Constantly Bullied by a certain Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #1 on: 06 September 2012, 14:24:34 »

A little while ago I posted up for advice on my 3.2 as the EML had come on and the code reader confirmed reduced effeciency with the pre cats and the advice given was to relocate the Lambda sensors,which has proven easier said than done,tried a few local garages and all I got was "not interested mate" So have decided against trying to get the job done and will instead opt for replacing the pre cats,so I really could do with a bit of advice on suppliers other than VX dealers as I'm getting fed up with that big EML staring back at me all the time :-\

Do Not replace the standard cats with aftermarket shite... It will be worse and there's nothing wrong with them ;) It's just that the management system is overly fussy ;)

It's worth getting them relocated. If all else fails, try Darth Loo Knee... A trip to Stoke will be well worth it if that is what you have to do ;)
Logged
Whatever it is... I didn't do it

ted_one

  • Guest
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #2 on: 06 September 2012, 15:03:40 »

Unfortunately I've tried locally but there does'nt seem any one who's willing to take it on,so I'm taking the least path of resistance and going for new.Unable to contact Daz at the moment possibly due to his work commitments :-\
Logged

albitz

  • Guest
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #3 on: 06 September 2012, 15:07:15 »

Taking the route of aftermarket cats is the worst possible way forward. You will regret wasting your money. ;)
Logged

ted_one

  • Guest
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #4 on: 06 September 2012, 15:19:09 »

Yuup! getting the message but resolving the problem is a pain in the  :o might just get rid of the car....the other two  can go with it!  buy one get two free.Wife says get rid and lets get a newish Jag XJ  ::) ::)
Logged

albitz

  • Guest
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #5 on: 06 September 2012, 15:27:08 »

I do know that Daz isbusy with new job commitments these days,but if he cant do the job at the moment Im sure others on the forum have done it too.Might be worth a new thread with "Wanted" in the title ?  :-\
Logged

Peter13

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Budapest, Hungary
  • Posts: 88
    • '98 3.0 MV6 Estate LPG
    • View Profile
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #6 on: 06 September 2012, 15:54:26 »

How did you make sure your sensors are faulty or its location is causing the EML? According to my experience there are many other causes that can end up with EML. I have replaced 3 times the bank1 sensor on my x30xe with no succes before I finally found the vacuum leak that caused EML.
Logged

Lazydocker

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Woodbridge, Suffolk
  • Posts: 18848
  • Constantly Bullied by a certain Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #7 on: 06 September 2012, 15:56:30 »

Yuup! getting the message but resolving the problem is a pain in the  :o might just get rid of the car....the other two  can go with it!  buy one get two free.Wife says get rid and lets get a newish Jag XJ  ::) ::)
It's not a problem... OK, the light is a little annoying, but there is no performance restriction and the car runs fine so just wait until it can be sorted leisurely and do a pedal test weekly to check for any new codes ;)

Aftermarket cats will be restrictive, noisy and generally shite. Getting rid for a minor issue like this is, IMO, pointless but each to their own ;)
Logged
Whatever it is... I didn't do it

Lazydocker

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Woodbridge, Suffolk
  • Posts: 18848
  • Constantly Bullied by a certain Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #8 on: 06 September 2012, 15:58:01 »

How did you make sure your sensors are faulty or its location is causing the EML? According to my experience there are many other causes that can end up with EML. I have replaced 3 times the bank1 sensor on my x30xe with no succes before I finally found the vacuum leak that caused EML.

Different fault here... This is purely a pre-cat efficiency code and is not a major issue. Nothing wrong with the sensors or the cats themselves so just relocate the sensors and the light goes away for good ;)
Logged
Whatever it is... I didn't do it

maverick

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • 0
  • Posts: 37
    • View Profile
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #9 on: 06 September 2012, 16:21:14 »

on this subject has anyone tried these "mil eliminators" that are availaible for not a lot off ebay ?, not specific to an Omega but seems to be a universal thing. basically seems to trick ECU into thinking all is well

Brett
Logged

ted_one

  • Guest
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #10 on: 06 September 2012, 16:26:43 »

Thanks for all the advice but have been thinking about getting shot of the cars for a while now,have'nt got the patience like many of you who have to do all this problem solving stuff >:(
Logged

Entwood

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • North Wiltshire
  • Posts: 19566
  • My Old 3.2 V6 Elite (LPG)
    • Audi A6 Allroad 3.0 DTI
    • View Profile
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #11 on: 06 September 2012, 17:47:49 »

Buy a code reader/resetter.. even a laptop based ELM327 for £20 is good enough, or get something slightly better like the maxscan.

Then simply delete the codes once you confirm they are the cat effieciency ones .. takes a few seconds and the light stays out for quite a few months (11 in my case :) ), when it comes back on .. repeat the read/delete .. :)

seemples
Logged

ted_one

  • Guest
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #12 on: 06 September 2012, 18:38:59 »

Tried that with the code reader that I've got but it does'nt work with this one,may well take your advice and get something that will do the job,SWMBO is nudging me towards sending the cars to the Gods of Egay and to stop wasting my money on trying to keep what in effect are worn out ten year old bangers on the road. :'( :'(
Logged

biggriffin

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • huntingdon, Hoof'land
  • Posts: 9844
    • It's Insignificant
    • View Profile
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #13 on: 07 September 2012, 09:59:31 »

Wasn't there a thread on here about either removing the pre-cats or replacing the down pipes with 3.0L ones and putting primary lamdas in them.
Logged
Hoof'land storeman.

Lazydocker

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Woodbridge, Suffolk
  • Posts: 18848
  • Constantly Bullied by a certain Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Failing pre cats.
« Reply #14 on: 07 September 2012, 10:05:58 »

Wasn't there a thread on here about either removing the pre-cats or replacing the down pipes with 3.0L ones and putting primary lamdas in them.
Sort of... Replacing the 3.2 cats with 3.0 cats (which should be slightly less restrictive) ;)

It's not a straight swap though... Need to modify the manifold flange and still need to fit all 4 Lambda sensors, but the relocation is done :y

That said... I wouldn't fit anything other than genuine cats to the car though ;)
Logged
Whatever it is... I didn't do it
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.018 seconds with 21 queries.