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What should I do

Replace wishbones with Lemforder
Replace wishbones with Meyle
Replace with el-cheap
Refurb originals with new rear bushes and a new balljoint

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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #15 on: 07 September 2012, 12:15:49 »

The correct sized socket and a vice plus potentialy a hammer works on the rear bushes.

Ball joints are easy enough with a grinder.

That way you could fit genuine ball joint and rear bushes.
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« Reply #16 on: 07 September 2012, 12:20:18 »

Rears come out in the same way as fronts, blow torch then hacksaw :y

I'm really, really lazy, and even I've refurbed mine :y

Fronts poly, rears VX, original (pattern) ball joints about to be replaced with new pattern (for convenience, local factor had pair in stock, VX ones four times price and two day wait).

When they fail, which they will  ::), new VX ones will be waiting to go on, and should only take minutes to change :y
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #17 on: 07 September 2012, 12:20:37 »

The correct sized socket and a vice plus potentialy a hammer works on the rear bushes.

Ball joints are easy enough with a grinder.

That way you could fit genuine ball joint and rear bushes.
Normal people don't have sockets used on Type 47s ;D

Anything in the Hellfrauds set big enough?
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #18 on: 07 September 2012, 12:30:11 »

The correct sized socket and a vice plus potentialy a hammer works on the rear bushes.

Ball joints are easy enough with a grinder.

That way you could fit genuine ball joint and rear bushes.
Normal people don't have sockets used on Type 47s ;D

Anything in the Hellfrauds set big enough?

Probably, there not that big.

You emean you dont have 3/4 and 1 inch drive sockets in sizes exceeding 50mm?
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #19 on: 07 September 2012, 12:35:42 »

Rear bushes - £14.31 each
Balljoint - £45.95 each :o
Trade price, exc VAT, from dealer

Lemforder balljoint - £16.80 each (AGP)
Lemforder wishbones - £65 each (AGP)
Meyle wishbones - £84 each (AGP)
QH wishbones - £43 each (AGP)
Inc VAT, exc P&P

So:
Refurb:
GM bushes and balljoint - £90ish
GM bushes, LF balljoint - £35ish

Renew:
LF - £130
M - £170
QH - £90


Cost not massively important, given the work fitting, and cost of aligning.
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #20 on: 07 September 2012, 12:44:31 »

The correct sized socket and a vice plus potentialy a hammer works on the rear bushes.

Ball joints are easy enough with a grinder.

That way you could fit genuine ball joint and rear bushes.
Normal people don't have sockets used on Type 47s ;D

Anything in the Hellfrauds set big enough?

Probably, there not that big.

You emean you dont have 3/4 and 1 inch drive sockets in sizes exceeding 50mm?
Hellfrauds goes up to 32mm and 11/4"
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #21 on: 08 September 2012, 10:26:38 »

Sounds like Marks talking hImself into a job. ;D :y ...actually, yes, re furbing is a brilliant idea. Go for it. :-X ::)

While its arguable re-furbing is the way, not all owners have confidence to mess about. Plus the possibility of introducing further faults in the process.

While its easy to advise what you would do on your own cars, with the expertise you have available, it's the op that we need to bare in mind.

So we're basickly down to the integrity of the arms themselves, and the re furb process going smoothly.

I'd rather have rivets on me ball joints myself.

LF with poly here, not failed yet so can't advise life on the latest crop of about 18 months ago.

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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #22 on: 08 September 2012, 11:41:52 »

i agree with chrisgixer.

i have the LF ones on mine and yes i prob should have put front poly bushes on them,which i will do when they current ones fitted fail.

i am confident at doing most stuff some with guidance but i think and hate to admit it refurbing wishboones is a little past my abilites. I still have my old wishbones although a little rusty just incase i decide at a later date to attempt a refurb.

I my case it was more convenient to just put the LF straight on and see how the ride goes. I some of your eyes i may have made the wrong decision but as a first time doing wishbones personally its what was best for me. i think the price was about £130 which is a stones throw compaired to full GM wishbones.

Time will tell if they last or not.
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #23 on: 08 September 2012, 12:18:17 »

Sounds like Marks talking hImself into a job. ;D :y ...actually, yes, re furbing is a brilliant idea. Go for it. :-X ::)

While its arguable re-furbing is the way, not all owners have confidence to mess about. Plus the possibility of introducing further faults in the process.

While its easy to advise what you would do on your own cars, with the expertise you have available, it's the op that we need to bare in mind.

So we're basickly down to the integrity of the arms themselves, and the re furb process going smoothly.

I'd rather have rivets on me ball joints myself.

LF with poly here, not failed yet so can't advise life on the latest crop of about 18 months ago.

Same policy here, with no issues to date :y :y :y
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #24 on: 08 September 2012, 12:25:14 »

JImbob did yours have the production date laser etched onto the arms themselves?
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #25 on: 08 September 2012, 12:30:43 »

i seem to recall they were about 1 month old!

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« Reply #26 on: 08 September 2012, 12:44:16 »

i seem to recall they were about 1 month old!
So yes?
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« Reply #27 on: 08 September 2012, 13:01:23 »

If a 10t press is easier than a large vice for the rear bushes... I now own a 10t press  :-[ welcome to come use it anytime ;) (especially if you help me assemble it and put it on the workbench!  ;D)
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #28 on: 08 September 2012, 13:29:40 »

Spooky.

I fitted LFs about 2 years ago and kept the old ones for a refurb.

I have just pressed out the rear bushes using my home made 10 ton press and a selection of sockets from my 3/4" socket set :).

I tried last weekend and failed :( because the bushes were rusted in. This time I started by drilling a 6mm hole through the rubber and using an Abrafile (spelling?) in my hacksaw to cut a slot in the outer part of the bush.

Struggling now to find a suitable socket to fit the front bushes.......

PS there is no way my vice would be hefty enough to shift those bushes. It might be up to the task of pressing the new ones in though.
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Re: Replace or refurb wishbones
« Reply #29 on: 08 September 2012, 13:50:51 »

Struggling now to find a suitable socket to fit the front bushes.......
I think the recommendation would be to cut out the fronts, and use polys instead
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