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Toe in question
« on: 15 September 2012, 11:56:19 »
I want to adjust my toe in. I am using a Trackace laser tool to set up as best I can at home before having it all checked again with a WIM recommended company.

My question is. The track rods have a sleeve between the ball joints at either end.

It looks like I have to disconnect one of the joints to adjust the tracking by turning into, or, out of the sleeve.

Am I right in thinking that turning the sleeve will just move the sleeve and not adjust anything? Undoing ot away from one ball jpoint would tighten it onto the other by the same amount surely?
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #1 on: 15 September 2012, 12:01:51 »
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #2 on: 15 September 2012, 12:05:22 »
Thanks RobG  :y

I have already read that, but it doesn't answer my question.

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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #3 on: 15 September 2012, 12:10:25 »
The "sleeve" as you call it IS the adjuster ... the threads are different at each end, one being clockwise, the other being anti-clockwise, so as you rotate the "sleeve" .. in one direction both ends move out, in the other direction both ends move in .. that is how adjustment is done ....  :) you do NOT undo the ball joints !!!!

Thats the simple theory ..practice can be harder as they have a tendency to corrode badly unless greased well on fitting ...  they can be an absolute sod to move needed plusgas, heat, strength, and patience !!
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #4 on: 15 September 2012, 12:12:10 »
I think I found the answer Entwood when I just checked and noticed that it looks like each ball joint has opposing direction threads.

Thanks for confirming :y

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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #5 on: 15 September 2012, 12:35:53 »
Just one to remember, if you have to use heat to free it off let it cool right off before your check your mesurments.
I had a play with mine last year.
Warmed it up and adjusted it up nicely only to find the thing was miles out once it all cooled off  :-[

HTH
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #6 on: 15 September 2012, 13:03:24 »
Quote from: Entwood on 15 September 2012, 12:10:25
The "sleeve" as you call it IS the adjuster ... the threads are different at each end, one being clockwise, the other being anti-clockwise, so as you rotate the "sleeve" .. in one direction both ends move out, in the other direction both ends move in .. that is how adjustment is done ....  :) you do NOT undo the ball joints !!!!

Thats the simple theory ..practice can be harder as they have a tendency to corrode badly unless greased well on fitting ...  they can be an absolute sod to move needed plusgas, heat, strength, and patience !!

And a few snapped spanner's  ::) :-X
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #7 on: 15 September 2012, 13:54:12 »
Yes the threads are left and right handed. So turn the centre tube to make the track rod shorter or longer. Longer gives toe in obviously. :)
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #8 on: 15 September 2012, 14:06:38 »
I had access to the rod while I fitted a new drop link as the old one was slightly bent.

So I sprayed the adjuster on the track rod ready to adjust.

But when I dropped the car, went forward and back a few times, I checked the tracking and on my gauge it reads as just over 10 minutes, which is good enough looking at the book. So I don't think I'll bother adjusting it.
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #9 on: 15 September 2012, 16:00:06 »
Yes stock setting is -0.10mins. :y
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #10 on: 16 September 2012, 08:03:24 »
I had my tracking checked and adjusted the other day as had new ends put on. steering wheel was to the left slightly and guy at garage said it was out so adjusted it accordingly. he said pop back in a week to re check and this time I watched him do it. the readings were 0 at front and 7 each Sid on rear. doesthat sound right? it was done on a later thing and steering wheel is now straight and no pulling
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #11 on: 20 September 2012, 20:59:33 »
after replacing the worn inner and outer track rods and link bars and counting the turns on each joint thought it best to get it 4 wheel tracked inc rears , wow ......was it out or what , now drives like new, worth looking into , caster/camber, rear link adjustment and balancing .
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Re: Toe in question
« Reply #12 on: 20 September 2012, 21:21:33 »
Quote from: plym ian on 16 September 2012, 08:03:24
I had my tracking checked and adjusted the other day as had new ends put on. steering wheel was to the left slightly and guy at garage said it was out so adjusted it accordingly. he said pop back in a week to re check and this time I watched him do it. the readings were 0 at front and 7 each Sid on rear. doesthat sound right? it was done on a later thing and steering wheel is now straight and no pulling
Nope. See wheels in motion web site. Get it set properly.
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