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[feeutfo]

Think MO are 93 Y. But as long as your aware...

[D]

Sport Maxx's are well known to have a short life. Presumably due to a softer compound? Have never used them myself on the Omega though. The Contis are quite hard and last reasonably long, but are very noisy. Goodyear F1 assym 2 for me. Best tyre all around.

[TheBoy]

Sport Maxx's are well known to have a short life. Presumably due to a softer compound? Have never used them myself on the Omega though. The Contis are quite hard and last reasonably long, but are very noisy. Goodyear F1 assym 2 for me. Best tyre all around.

SC3 not as noisy as Dunlops

[feeutfo]

...and do manage a reasonable grip level v life. Hence the interest.

[TheBoy]

Currently running sc3 very good tyre all round.
Will give 20k, so justifys the the more expensive price IMO.
Excellent grip wet or dry, good stability in the MO variant.

However they are bringing in the similarly ish priced sc5 so 3 is becoming more difficult to find in my preferred "MO" Mercedes variant with rim protection, as Micheldever didn't have any in.
I currently have the Audi variant and although not as stable are slightly more compliant. Early days with these though so will report as I find...

The sc3 don't give as planted a feel as the Dunlops such as sport maxx and tt but they do last longer. Considerably longer. Still give good directional stability though.

Goodyear give good results too but I have limited experience with those, although others speak highly off them.

I am told the only difference between MO and the std SC3 is a soft start compound is used on MO, to give ecellent grip from new, much like the SP9090 over the SP9000

[SMD]

Chris, the SC3 is available in MO from blackcircles although in W 94. Is this unsuitable for Omegas?

I will be going for the F1s. Sadly the price has gone up by £2 per tyre in the last two days 

[feeutfo]

Currently running sc3 very good tyre all round.
Will give 20k, so justifys the the more expensive price IMO.
Excellent grip wet or dry, good stability in the MO variant.

However they are bringing in the similarly ish priced sc5 so 3 is becoming more difficult to find in my preferred "MO" Mercedes variant with rim protection, as Micheldever didn't have any in.
I currently have the Audi variant and although not as stable are slightly more compliant. Early days with these though so will report as I find...

The sc3 don't give as planted a feel as the Dunlops such as sport maxx and tt but they do last longer. Considerably longer. Still give good directional stability though.

Goodyear give good results too but I have limited experience with those, although others speak highly off them.

I am told the only difference between MO and the std SC3 is a soft start compound is used on MO, to give ecellent grip from new, much like the SP9090 over the SP9000

utter 'dangle berries'! As said check the conti web site. It's listed in detail.

[TheBoy]

Currently running sc3 very good tyre all round.
Will give 20k, so justifys the the more expensive price IMO.
Excellent grip wet or dry, good stability in the MO variant.

However they are bringing in the similarly ish priced sc5 so 3 is becoming more difficult to find in my preferred "MO" Mercedes variant with rim protection, as Micheldever didn't have any in.
I currently have the Audi variant and although not as stable are slightly more compliant. Early days with these though so will report as I find...

The sc3 don't give as planted a feel as the Dunlops such as sport maxx and tt but they do last longer. Considerably longer. Still give good directional stability though.

Goodyear give good results too but I have limited experience with those, although others speak highly off them.

I am told the only difference between MO and the std SC3 is a soft start compound is used on MO, to give ecellent grip from new, much like the SP9090 over the SP9000

utter 'dangle berries'! As said check the conti web site. It's listed in detail.

There is absolutely sweet FA on the UK Contiental Tyres website. Only one variant of SC3.  To be honest, such a crap website is putting me off their product

[TheBoy]

The MO are very stable directionally, but still not as planted as tt.
Audi, not as stable.
XL no experience.

Could this be down to load ratings?  Audi only available in XL, Merc on both 91 and 95.

Pretty sure the Omega, for 17s is stated as needing load rating of 94 or better?

[D]

As TB says, no info re the variants on conti's website. Plus they are universally hailed as being noisy. My experience with conti SC3 on a FWD Focus ST was less than favourable. They did ok, but certainly did not make me feel like they were worth the extra premium that I paid. I am very tempted to try these next:

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=40023695.110.18630&typ=D-104577&ranzahl=4&Breite=235&Quer=45&Felge=17&Load=93&Speed=W&weiter=50&Ang_pro_Seite=50&sort_by=brand&Transport=P&dsco=110

They score highly on quiteness, wear and have above average grip.

[TheBoy]

As TB says, no info re the variants on conti's website. Plus they are universally hailed as being noisy. My experience with conti SC3 on a FWD Focus ST was less than favourable. They did ok, but certainly did not make me feel like they were worth the extra premium that I paid. I am very tempted to try these next:

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=40023695.110.18630&typ=D-104577&ranzahl=4&Breite=235&Quer=45&Felge=17&Load=93&Speed=W&weiter=50&Ang_pro_Seite=50&sort_by=brand&Transport=P&dsco=110

They score highly on quiteness, wear and have above average grip.

In 2 yrs of owning a POS Focus, and all the friggin ones I've been stitched up as hire cars, nothing will make any Focus do corners. Inherrently shite. Much improved on the Escort, granted, but still utter shite.

But back you the main bulk of your post, SC3 are far quieter than the Dunlops I use on the MV6. If you want quiet, I'd recommend Falken 912. Very quiet. Until the emergency services sirens break the peace, and rush you to hospital.


Generic tyre reviews mean absolutely diddly. Thats why I go out of my way not to read them. What works on a FWD shitbox probably won't work on a 2t exec saloon.  Additionally, even within the same model of tyre on the same car, load ratind and even speed rating can make a dramatic difference. This is my my little Rover, RIP, used P6000 V rated, even though its top speed was within the H rating, as the P6000 H rated was shite - fortunately a short lived, albeit expensive, mistake, as they only managed about 8k. 8K of pure understeer though, so fun was had

Additionally, everyone wants something different from their tyres. I mean, FFS, people actually choose Michelin. I assume these people are depressed and want to end it all, but there are more reliable ways to top yourself .

I know what tyres can produce the levels of grip, both cornering and stopping, that I am looking for, now just have to find something thats more durable than the Sport Maxx TT's I use on the MV6 (which are a stunning tyre, but too expensive to replace annually/10k).

[D]

Similarly, I think it is a bit unfair to compare a Focus ST to a standard focus. They are quite different, having actually driven both myself.

I havent actually weighted my purchase with any reviews, but just what I have experienced myself. The link was purely to a purchase price for those tyres. It is quite difficult to decide on what tyre is best for your car, so I suspect most people use reviews performed by a testing panel as a base to start off. I see nothing wrong with that. Yes it isn't representative of how it may work on your car, but then I suppose no manufacturer would have used an Omega to design their tyres since 2004.

Wanting a tyre that grips, yet doesnt sound like a turbine in a 2T executive car is not an unreasonable ask, is it? After all the Omega wasn't designed for speed or track days was it? Certainly not my elite.

I find PS3's quite good on my Omega and i dont drive slowly, I can assure you. This is after covering 10k on them. The SC3's were good but not worth the premium IME. Thats all, so I choose not to buy them again unless I run out of options. Have you actually used the PS3's? They are quite different to the PS2's that I have used in a RWD BMW a good few years ago.

[TheBoy]

Have you actually used the PS3's? They are quite different to the PS2's that I have used in a RWD BMW a good few years ago.

I have had both PS2 and PS3 on Omegas, and thought they were appalling. Very good stopping capability though, awesome in fact. Just really didn't like corners. Overall, probably one of the worse tyres I've ever had on the Omega, including all the budgets. Not as bad as Autogrip in the wet though, they do try to kill you .  I found the PS2 and PS3 to have similar characteristics, and I couldn't really tell them apart 

I also had PS2's on the Rover 400 (lease car, we had no say on what tyres went on), and after about 2k of good grip, they became skittish and inspired no confidence.

(Assumption PS = Pilot Sport)

[D]

You assume correctly. Shame you find the PS3 poor. I find them very good. Have you tried the GY F1 assymetric 2 yet? Noisy, but very grippy. Not too expensive either?

Oh, are you tyres standard 17 MV6's?

At least we agree that Falkens are deadly on the Omega. 

[SMD]

Are the Goodyears quieter than the SC3 ?