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[Kevin Wood]

I don't think that BT is everything, that's just one example of the numerous ways that Apple have constricted their users in doing something that they have paid for, and why on earth should people go to the trouble of trying to find a cross platform app when BT works by sending raw data in a format that any device can handle?

If the OP wants an iPad I'm sure he'll buy one, but I base where my money goes on more than just having a brand name.

Yes, it would be absolutely great to have an SD card slot, or some USB ports, or file sharing over your LAN so you can just move your data on a memory stick, or take the card from your camera and plug it in. The fact is that crApple want all their iTard followers to be locked into using their products, so any technology that allows you to move your data onto a competing platform without using a fair bit of initiative (well, a very modest amount, really, the barrier doesn't have to be that high ) is verboten.

[llewellyn237]

And what's the range of Bluetooth? You need to be in the same house for crying out loud. "Got a pic to show you, mate. I'll wait til you're here Friday"

And just so you know, the only thing Apple I own is my phone. Just so I'm not labelled as an "iTard crApple follower" 

[Martian]

And what's the range of Bluetooth? You need to be in the same house for crying out loud. "Got a pic to show you, mate. I'll wait til you're here Friday"

And just so you know, the only thing Apple I own is my phone. Just so I'm not labelled as an "iTard crApple follower" 

A lot longer than a USB cable that you can't use to transfer the pic either, that's for sure.

It's not just about the BT, there are a whole host of features that are standard on pretty much every other platform that make life quite easy (which I always thought was meant to be one of Apple's main selling points anyway) for the end user, yet Apple choose to dictate what the end user can do with the hardware that they have paid for and their customers seem to be daft enough to tolerate it.

[llewellyn237]

Well you obviously need Bluetooth a lot of the time. I've never needed it and never will. If something needs transferring while I'm at home there's a marvellous invention called wifi.

[Martian]

Well you obviously need Bluetooth a lot of the time. I've never needed it and never will. If something needs transferring while I'm at home there's a marvellous invention called wifi.

You can explore your iPhone's file system on another device (PC or phone) using Wi-Fi?

[llewellyn237]

Well you obviously need Bluetooth a lot of the time. I've never needed it and never will. If something needs transferring while I'm at home there's a marvellous invention called wifi.

You can explore your iPhone's file system on another device (PC or phone) using Wi-Fi?

Why on earth would I need to do that?

If for some absurd reason I needed to a simple jailbreak would suffice.

[Martian]

Well you obviously need Bluetooth a lot of the time. I've never needed it and never will. If something needs transferring while I'm at home there's a marvellous invention called wifi.

You can explore your iPhone's file system on another device (PC or phone) using Wi-Fi?

Why on earth would I need to do that?

Erm, to copy data (pics or otherwise) to & from the handset?

If for some absurd reason I needed to a simple jailbreak would suffice.

That was my whole point, why do you need to do anything to carry out such a simple task of copying a file in the first place?

[tunnie]

When I had my iPhone I would SSH to it to copy pictures and other files to and from it, but of course you need to jailbreak it for that. Least with Android you don't have to do that.

[llewellyn237]

I can sync and do a lot more via wifi since iOS 6 update

[Kevin Wood]

That was my whole point, why do you need to do anything to carry out such a simple task of copying a file in the first place?

I think the problem we are having is that we expect to be buying a computer, and therefore expect it to do things a normal computer will do. iDevices are appliances for doing a limited range of things defined by the manufacturer. More than that, you're paying for it to have been designed to stop you doing things that you might want to do. I have a problem with buying computers like that. For others, it might be acceptable.

You wouldn't worry if your toaster wouldn't iron your shirts, after all.

Actually, that's a bad analogy.

If a toaster only did toast the way a bloke in silicon valley liked it (a deceased bloke with a wardrobe full of black polo necks, for example) you'd have one group of people who'd decide (having paid a lot of money for a toaster without realising it didn't have a dial on it  ) that it made the best toast in the world, and who wants all the complexity of turning the dial to select how you want your toast done?

Another group of people would take it apart and adjust the timer to make toast how they liked it.

Yet another group of people would just buy a toaster with a dial on it in the first place, and realise what a bargain they got by not having to pay someone to remove the dial.

 

[llewellyn237]

What happens is, a company storms the market with an almost unbelievable toaster. Within a few years every Tom, Dick and Harry company follows suit, only trying to add a little extra...

One day a Korean company will launch a toaster so alike to the original, they'll end up having a court dispute resulting in them paying the creators of the original toaster £hundreds of millions... Oh wait...

[Martian]

What happens is, a company storms the market with an almost unbelievable toaster. Within a few years every Tom, Dick and Harry company follows suit, only trying to add a little extra...

One day a Korean company will launch a toaster so alike to the original, they'll end up having a court dispute resulting in them paying the creators of the original toaster £hundreds of millions... Oh wait...

You obviously think this is a Samsung S3 vs iPhone 5 discussion, but it's not just the Galaxy range of handsets that offer better functionality....all the other mobile platforms do as well because they don't have anywhere near the restrictions that iOS does.

I fail to see what bearing the lawsuit debacle offers, especially as Apple have also copied Samsung's technology in the past and been successfully sued for it.
I also believe Apple were forced to publically apologise recently after they falsely accused Samsung of copying the iPad, so it's swings & roundabouts.

If people want to mess about trying to transfer a video/pic/whatever from their phone to (say) their friends USB stick then good luck to them, but I find it makes life much easier when you can simply plug that USB stick directly in to the phone and copy whatever you like in a few seconds.

[Marks DTM Calib]

I keep looking at 'pads' but the question is, what do you really use it for.

For me its possibly a bit of browsing, photos, occasional movie, the odd basic game, certainly not music, its much to large a device for that (given that a phoe is smaller and just as capable) and when you look at cost/functionality then the ipad comes out quite low down the list. My biggest concern is the life of the things as I tend to keep laptops etc going for upto 10 years and in that time you have to replace batteries so I need something that is also serviceable.

It will be interesting to see how good the kindle fire is (I suspect a bit below par)

[feeutfo]

For me, when I was looking for a small lap top, I ended up going for an iPad. Although there was no competition at the time.

Why? Start up times where way too long on a lappy, and the heat the bloody things kick out is unacceptable IMO.

So iPad it was.

Convenience basickly. Basic browsing, music while browsing sometimes, the odd film on holiday. Pdf's for the car.


Its arguable I could do with a proper lap top with a com port* for diags, but couldn't justify the cost of both. For me, lack of heat and quicker start up times where more important, especially given the time I spend on here.

iPad is so easy and convenient to use. Even with the lack of flash, and re loading a page with half written posts for no reason at all. Pufff, another half written post lost in the eather. 

*Although I guess a USB covers most lap top diags these day?

[Kevin Wood]

The issue for me is that I find entering even the small amounts of text required when browsing extremely tedious without a proper keyboard. It'd have to be an Asus transformer or similar.

So I paid less for a fully functional PC - a Netbook.