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[TheBoy]

I keep looking at 'pads' but the question is, what do you really use it for.

For me its possibly a bit of browsing, photos, occasional movie, the odd basic game, certainly not music, its much to large a device for that (given that a phoe is smaller and just as capable) and when you look at cost/functionality then the ipad comes out quite low down the list. My biggest concern is the life of the things as I tend to keep laptops etc going for upto 10 years and in that time you have to replace batteries so I need something that is also serviceable.

It will be interesting to see how good the kindle fire is (I suspect a bit below par)

Mrs TB and I had a tablet each (as I could get them ridiculously cheap ), and it has advantages if you just need to quickly check something on the web, or send an email.  Its a bit like using your phone, but is in a more convenient form factor (for home use), as the extra size makes it easier.

I tend to use mine less, as my lappy runs an SSD, so boot-up is fairly quick.  Now the battery has been replaced, I tend to use sleep an awful lot more, so its on within about 2s.  But if I have powered down the lappy, and have one of those "ah, I meant to check..." moments, the Touchpad comes out.

[TheBoy]

Kevs little note book is tempting tbh. But from what I already have, there's no point. Plus I don't have the nouse or interest to cock about adding memory/ram/Linux to make it useable for minimal uptime it will get.

Just use the Windows that comes with it then. No "cocking about"


I use a Netbook when I go anywhere. Thats got an SSD and a new battery as well, so is now very usable for virtually instant on, although if you're not using it for days and days, ideally needs shutting down properly...  ...or charging at some point.

[Kevin Wood]

Kevs little note book is tempting tbh. But from what I already have, there's no point. Plus I don't have the nouse or interest to cock about adding memory/ram/Linux to make it useable for minimal uptime it will get.

Just use the Windows that comes with it then. No "cocking about"

.. just quite a bit of waiting around.. 

[TheBoy]

I was playing with an Acer (YUK!) full x86 tablet today, as we were slapping Win8 on it (came with Win7).  I was quite impressed with it (and its hard for me to praise Acer). Obviously being a full x86, it had the Windows Desktop as well as whatever Metro is called this week.

Resume from sleep was the same as any tablet. Restart from a power down was about 5-7s, very, very impressive (an iPad is about 2 minutes).  I must be honest, its the first time I've used Win8 on a tablet, and its definately a viable option. Very viable.

And because it is a full x86 machine, it can run the same stuff as my laptop can, and has all the usual USB, SD etc...

...downsides are its definately heavier than the newer iPads, and a lot thicker...   ...and impossible to upgrade or fix as per MDTMs comments.

[TheBoy]

Kevs little note book is tempting tbh. But from what I already have, there's no point. Plus I don't have the nouse or interest to cock about adding memory/ram/Linux to make it useable for minimal uptime it will get.

Just use the Windows that comes with it then. No "cocking about"

.. just quite a bit of waiting around.. 

Why? Windows 7 outperforms and modern Linux running X.

[feeutfo]

A single image is no biggy. Multiple images, it falls on its arse...

Tried transferring a single image to my mates 4s, no go.
The 4s didn't even bother to alert him of an intended incoming connection, and the Droid just got the "connection refused" message.

well if you got a decent bloody phone you could use iMessage.

[feeutfo]

I can see i'mnot going to win any lap top arguments with you lot, obviously.

But at the time, whatever windows was available on the nearest net book on display next to the iPad, it took 3.5mins to start up. On the iPad it just turned on, and I was on the web, brouser a bit, buggered about with apps. And the windows machine was still booting. Rrrrrubbish.

[BigAl]

The issue for me is that I find entering even the small amounts of text required when browsing extremely tedious without a proper keyboard. It'd have to be an Asus transformer or similar.

So I paid less for a fully functional PC - a Netbook.

Just buy a bluetooth keyboard - I've a MS wireless entertainment keyboard 3000 which even has a built in trackpad! and works flawlessly with the samsung galaxy tab.
Ideal for citrix receiver to connect to a remote server

[TheBoy]

A single image is no biggy. Multiple images, it falls on its arse...

Tried transferring a single image to my mates 4s, no go.
The 4s didn't even bother to alert him of an intended incoming connection, and the Droid just got the "connection refused" message.

well if you got a decent bloody phone you could use iMessage.

I disable iMessage on mine. It has no use in life, and I'm naturally distrusting of Apple

[TheBoy]

I can see i'mnot going to win any lap top arguments with you lot, obviously.

But at the time, whatever windows was available on the nearest net book on display next to the iPad, it took 3.5mins to start up. On the iPad it just turned on, and I was on the web, brouser a bit, buggered about with apps. And the windows machine was still booting. Rrrrrubbish.

You're not really comparing like with like. From poweroff, how long does your gaypad take to boot?

I've just brought my laptop out of sleep, 2s - not as quick as my tablet, but perfectly acceptable. And more capable and usable as well.  Oh, and it has a Bluetooth stack that even Martian would be happy with

[feeutfo]

They where all off. All of em, including the iPad.

Bloody windows fan boy, assumes the crApple is on stand by. Sigh...

[TheBoy]

They where all off. All of em, including the iPad.

Bloody windows fan boy, assumes the crApple is on stand by. Sigh...

The iPad is on standby.

Do me a favour - press and hold power button for 3s, then swipe to power off. Then power back up, timing it.

Ta.

[feeutfo]

Nope, it was off. NOT on stand bye.

...are you in the Pub?

[TheBoy]

Nope, it was off. NOT on stand bye.

...are you in the Pub?

Are you going to answer the question?

2 minutes?

[feeutfo]

35 seconds!