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[Lizzie_Zoom]

At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.

I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance.  Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.

Do not go there please!!

Surely we are not talking about two extremes, Lizzie. This is not an "either, or" situation. He is simply persona non grata as a result of his hate-filled speeches. He would happily put an end to the human rights of anyone who didn't share his jihadist views. We should have the inalienable right, as a people, to deport those who call for our destruction..."human rights" or not.

I agree, but sometimes we can all get carried away with "ideas" on ways of eliminating/ exterminating things/people we do not like or agree with.

Unfortunately, at times, our democratic ideals do get in the way as in this ridiculous situation.  But never forget if we only want our version of free speech it leads to dangerous future situations.  Never forget Hitler dismantled German democracy from 1933 to give him the powers to rid the Nazis of all people who voiced a democratic opposing point of view, especially when dealing with "alien" religions. 

I find the character in question a threatening, evil force, but he has not yet faced trial and been found guilty of an crime (?). Hitler would love this situation and just shoot him and millions of others without trial.  So what I was stating is that we should never let our democratic ideals be devalued  by our actions.  Too much is at stake.

Never forget, to many in the East this man, will be a martyr when the West take him out.

[Rods2]

Expect much more of this as Al Qaeda has a new policy, where they have largely lost the military war, much in part to US drones, decapitation program, so their command structure has been largely destroyed (Note: Not EU human rights, and Labour luvies approved method, but it works), so their new policy is "Death by a thousand cuts" which is basically a civil disobedience program by their supporters to weaken Western societies and economies as much as possible.

It includes:

Not working and claiming benefits.
Having large families too boost the number of believers
Potential deportees going through as many appeals processes as possible to waste tax money.
Low level terrorist attacks, individual the murder of non-believers.
Disruption of normal life, so expect low level attacks on food, water supplies etc in the future.

But don't worry we have a effective weapon to counter all of this is called "The human rights act". I glad I shall soon be living in a country where they don't allow mass migration and there is no human rights act.

Unless things change for the better, western society will be lost in Western Europe over the next 60 years and I think you all know what it is going to be replaced by. It will certainly change Europe's landscape, when all pubs, bars, music, radios and TVs are banned. Women will be wearing very different clothing and won't go to school but they will get free health service genital mutilation. There will be no same sex relationships. Our diets will certainly change where there will be no pork or eating during the day at certain times of the year. All churches will be destroyed etc etc. The first to complain will of course be the Labour luvies, that caused the problem, but they will soon be silenced by the new order.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

You are fairly optimistic then Rods2

[Sir Tigger KC]

To be honest Rods I doubt there's much in the way of human rights at all in Ukraine, so mind how you go!!   

You'd think though that the government would be able to deport him back to his own country just for being an undesirable alien!! He was born in Bethlehem so pack him off there!! or is that too simple?   

I'm talking about Qatada now not Rods!!    I'm sure Ukraine will welcome Rods with open arms!!  Unless they've seen his posts on here then they'll ban him as a subversive!! 

[alfie]

Can we really afford the £5 million pa protection bill,there's really no need for it is there.Everyone loves him in this country,I'am sure no one wish'es him ill or worst.

[2boxerdogs]

It is fairly obvious what should happen to him, maybe (fingers crossed) it will, and no we can't afford the cost of keeping him here .

[acope]

Why should we have to look after him, let him take a begging bowl round to his "friends", already cost us many millions of pounds keeping in him unaccustomed luxury...scroat
Just bundle him in a plane and drop him off in Jordan.and he can shake hands with the other one...ooh no he can`t can he.

[cleggy]

It is really quite simple if someone is in your house who you don't want, you chuck them out. So just boot the offensive shitebag out of a plane as it flies over Jordan

As for the bloody liberals that think he deserves justice they are perfectly free to acompany him 

Oh and by the way Hitler was too far to the left 

[geoffr70]

At this poignant time I think it is wise to say one thing.

I would sooner live in an over the top liberal democratic system where sometimes there can seemingly be too much play on human rights and liberties than a far right oppressive society controlled by dictatorial politics or an organisation that stops all human rights ; the NAZIS for instance.  Shooting people in public was their answer to ALL opposition and views that they did not agree with.

Do not go there please!!

Nazis aren't right wing, they're left wing. There seems to be a mass public misunderstanding of the term 'right wing', happily perpetrated by lefties who like the fact that the term is ignorantly associated with extremism. Right wing is only one side of the political spectrum (the right i.e. the correct side), you can have extremes on both sides. For example these so called anti fascists ARE the very thing they claim to protest against. They don't allow freedom of thought, expression, association, or speech, and they seek to vilify anyone who dares think differently.

[geoffr70]

In any case, if someone is a Nazi that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It only means they are Nationalist and Socialist, the SNP for example. The term Nazi is a general one and denotes political ideology and is completely seperate from genocide and other acts associated with Hitlers regime during the war.

[Rods2]

It is really quite simple if someone is in your house who you don't want, you chuck them out. So just boot the offensive shitebag out of a plane as it flies over Jordan

As for the bloody liberals that think he deserves justice they are perfectly free to acompany him 

Oh and by the way Hitler was too far to the left 

Wrong way round, in the UK, we are expected to leave the house, they can stay, "it's their 'uman rights, ain't it". 

[albitz]

Just drag him into a Gay bar in London (plenty to choose from) and then shout "THIS BLOKE WANTS ALL OF YOU LOT STONED TO DEATH". Job jobbed.

[STMO123]

He could be innocent, like Jimmy Savile.

[albitz]

Cremate them together then.

[Rods2]

You are fairly optimistic then Rods2

Just realistic, look at the immigration levels, here and in much of Western Europe and average family sizes and do the maths. The people who will be motivated, like in all such situations, will be people with an axe to grind, which will be the radicals.