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Re: Abu Quatada
« Reply #45 on: 13 November 2012, 20:30:44 »

It's no good writing war and peace either. Nazis aren't right wing. Being left or right wing denotes ideology not methods.

Ideology is seperate from methods. It seems many people can't comprehend that.

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« Reply #46 on: 13 November 2012, 20:31:21 »

You've obviously missed the entire point, and that other socialist is butting in who doesn't know what he's talking about. Perhaps it's time for a lesson in basic politics? I won't go any further as from what you've posted you've proved my point about a mass public misunderstanding of what left and right wing is and isn't.

There is no misunderstanding in academic circles, and all mainstream political authors voice in a far more sophisticated way exactly the points I have expressed.

Sorry Geoffr70, but I respectfully believe that you are the one confused, not the mass of the public, or me. ;)


In answer to your comment "Ideology is seperate from methods" I will again stress that it IS all one and the same.  Political ideology always dictates methods, and has always throughout history.
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« Reply #47 on: 13 November 2012, 20:32:32 »

The time is going to come when we may well have to defend our culture and religion,because if you allow the limp wristers who run the country to protect us,then think on!  >:(

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« Reply #48 on: 13 November 2012, 20:34:26 »

The time is going to come when we may well have to defend our culture and religion,because if you allow the limp wristers who run the country to protect us,then think on!  >:(

Do you watch 'Doomsday preppers'? ;D
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Re: Abu Quatada
« Reply #49 on: 13 November 2012, 20:37:35 »

No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas getting cold I'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind
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« Reply #50 on: 13 November 2012, 20:39:24 »

The time is going to come when we may well have to defend our culture and religion,because if you allow the limp wristers who run the country to protect us,then think on!  >:(

Do you watch 'Doomsday preppers'? ;D

Yep , and digging that shelter was a nightmare  ::)
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Re: Abu Quatada
« Reply #51 on: 13 November 2012, 20:39:54 »

While we're on the subject, socialism needs to be eradicated.
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« Reply #52 on: 13 November 2012, 20:42:53 »

No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas gettin coldI'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind

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Re: Abu Quatada
« Reply #53 on: 13 November 2012, 20:43:17 »

I,ll take him. Send him to me.
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« Reply #54 on: 13 November 2012, 20:44:10 »

I have,but not sure wether that scenario would play out here,but I can only go on what I hear in conversations amongst friends and relatives,needless to say I would without hesitation do what ever the situation dictated at the time,can't say more than that :-\
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Re: Abu Quatada
« Reply #55 on: 13 November 2012, 20:46:13 »

Apparently Cameron's 'Fed up'......  :o  ::)
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Re: Abu Quatada
« Reply #56 on: 13 November 2012, 20:48:26 »

Why is it that people such as he come here to preach their "ideals" and their version of a justice system,and then fight like the devil to prevent their going back and facing that very justice system that they are so quick to espouse?
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« Reply #57 on: 13 November 2012, 20:48:41 »

Apparently Cameron's 'Fed up'......  :o  ::)

Boo hoo. Poor Dave.
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« Reply #58 on: 13 November 2012, 21:03:24 »

No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas getting cold I'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind

No, open yours :D :D

Sorry you feel like you are wasting your time.  You obviously do not enjoy debate.  No more to be said. ;)
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Re: Abu Quatada
« Reply #59 on: 14 November 2012, 00:03:30 »

No, what you're saying is that because Hitler's regime were oppressive and sought control they were right wing. When the opposite is true. They were left wing. This highlights my point about a misunderstanding of what the terms mean. Extreme left wing ideologies generally employ the same methods as the extreme right wing. It's only because self proclaimed lefties are so bloody self righteous they think they're demigods themselves and can't see beyond their own blinkered beliefs. Anyway me teas getting cold I'm not wasting my time trying to explain the obvious. Open your mind

No, open yours :D :D

Sorry you feel like you are wasting your time.  You obviously do not enjoy debate.  No more to be said. ;)

You can't debate with a brick wall. Thankfully for me, I'm free from having a conditioned mind, unlike some it appears.
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