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[cleggy]

If we go by the way the honors system works today, imo he probably deserves it for the work he has done over the last 20 years or so.

If people want to moan about it, wind the clock back to when it all changed (Tony Bliar era iirc) when it was seen as just rewards for kissing the right arse at the right time 
Before then, these awards where pretty scarce and ment something.
The common man and woman in the street have never had the national respect that they deserve because they don't drink in the right circles 

No he doesn't, his contribution to the music industry is to write a few popular songs and sing in a manufactured boyband.

I think we are both singing out of the same Hymn Book ,just on a different verse

Your last two sentences are on the button

[tigers_gonads]

If we go by the way the honors system works today, imo he probably deserves it for the work he has done over the last 20 years or so.

If people want to moan about it, wind the clock back to when it all changed (Tony Bliar era iirc) when it was seen as just rewards for kissing the right arse at the right time 
Before then, these awards where pretty scarce and ment something.
The common man and woman in the street have never had the national respect that they deserve because they don't drink in the right circles 

No he doesn't, his contribution to the music industry is to write a few popular songs and sing in a manufactured boyband.

I think we are both singing out of the same Hymn Book ,just on a different verse

Your last two sentences are on the button

At the end of the day, he was a spotty faced pretty boy in a boy band who turned out to be a pretty good song writer and due to the plastic culture of pop music nowdays he became famous and again because of this "so called fame" he could influence the media and used it to promote good causes threw his charity work and fair play to him.
In other words .............  he just got on with his job 
The OBE is (or should be) a award for people who go about there life or job in a good way, going well beyond the call off duty to help people who are less well off in life then themselfs for little or no reward. 
I don't think he has kissed anybodys arse to get there.
He basicly just got on with the cards he was delt


You have never heard me sing and believe me, you don't want too   
 

[cleggy]

If we go by the way the honors system works today, imo he probably deserves it for the work he has done over the last 20 years or so.

If people want to moan about it, wind the clock back to when it all changed (Tony Bliar era iirc) when it was seen as just rewards for kissing the right arse at the right time 
Before then, these awards where pretty scarce and ment something.
The common man and woman in the street have never had the national respect that they deserve because they don't drink in the right circles 

No he doesn't, his contribution to the music industry is to write a few popular songs and sing in a manufactured boyband.

I think we are both singing out of the same Hymn Book ,just on a different verse

Your last two sentences are on the button

At the end of the day, he was a spotty faced pretty boy in a boy band who turned out to be a pretty good song writer and due to the plastic culture of pop music nowdays he became famous and again because of this "so called fame" he could influence the media and used it to promote good causes threw his charity work and fair play to him.
In other words .............  he just got on with his job 
The OBE is (or should be) a award for people who go about there life or job in a good way, going well beyond the call off duty to help people who are less well off in life then themselfs for little or no reward. 
I don't think he has kissed anybodys arse to get there.
He basicly just got on with the cards he was delt


You have never heard me sing and believe me, you don't want too 

Me neither, will have to make do with the VDS and TCF as the only awards I'll get

[Sir Tigger KC]

Jeez you're a load of miserable sods!   

You may not like him or his work, but at least have the good grace to recognise that through his work he has brought pleasure to and entertained millions over a 20 year period!  

I'd rather gongs like this go to people like Barlow for doing their job, than faceless Sir Humphries in the civil service or top brass in the military! 

20 years   and didn't sell as many records as the Beatles, Stones, Who etc. Good god give him a lifetime achievement award as well
The honours system is a load of codswallop and should be abolished, it has become a joke giving awards to him and the likes of.

Ah, now The Beatles Cleggy.

They received their MBE's only two years+ since making it big in 1962/63.  I loved them, especially Paul, so I never begrudged each of them their award, which of course John Lennon famously sent back to the Palace!

http://www.thebeatles.com/#/article/Honoured_with_an_MBE

If the establishment want to reward someone for "services rendered" to the country, so be it.  Let's face it the British Empire no longer exists, but the establishment still stick to this out of date practice.  If that pleases them, so be it.  There are many other problems for us, the people, to worry about.

The Beatles (the original Boy Band) were only together for 10 years, yet McCartney despite multiple drugs convictions got an MBE and a Knighthood for doing his job and struts around at every national event like he's some sort of elder statesman...... 

[cleggy]

Jeez you're a load of miserable sods!   

You may not like him or his work, but at least have the good grace to recognise that through his work he has brought pleasure to and entertained millions over a 20 year period!  

I'd rather gongs like this go to people like Barlow for doing their job, than faceless Sir Humphries in the civil service or top brass in the military! 

20 years   and didn't sell as many records as the Beatles, Stones, Who etc. Good god give him a lifetime achievement award as well
The honours system is a load of codswallop and should be abolished, it has become a joke giving awards to him and the likes of.

Ah, now The Beatles Cleggy.

They received their MBE's only two years+ since making it big in 1962/63.  I loved them, especially Paul, so I never begrudged each of them their award, which of course John Lennon famously sent back to the Palace!

http://www.thebeatles.com/#/article/Honoured_with_an_MBE

If the establishment want to reward someone for "services rendered" to the country, so be it.  Let's face it the British Empire no longer exists, but the establishment still stick to this out of date practice.  If that pleases them, so be it.  There are many other problems for us, the people, to worry about.

The Beatles (the original Boy Band) were only together for 10 years, yet McCartney despite multiple drugs convictions got an MBE and a Knighthood for doing his job and struts around at every national event like he's some sort of elder statesman...... 

The Beatles were a GROUP that could play instruments, got together, slogged it round the clubs in England and Germany learning their craft. Lennon and McCartney are possibly the worlds greatest songwriters. They set the standard for others to try and emulate and failed with a possible few exceptions.

Boy Band  MY ARSE

They were not talentless pretty boys put together by some impresario with a market machine 

Whether or not they should receive awards is up for disscussion 

[Psychoca]

Far from deserved...  I couldn't believe it when I read it...

The only reason he has got it in reality would be for the Queens Jubilee Concert which was full of 2nd rate singers  (face it the pop music industry is manufactured twaddle, that all sounds very similar)...

He has done some stuff for charity, so what, haven't we all???  Ulitmately he has just been doing hs job...

There are other far more deserving than many of those who have/will receive(d) honours...

[Sir Tigger KC]

Jeez you're a load of miserable sods!   

You may not like him or his work, but at least have the good grace to recognise that through his work he has brought pleasure to and entertained millions over a 20 year period!  

I'd rather gongs like this go to people like Barlow for doing their job, than faceless Sir Humphries in the civil service or top brass in the military! 

20 years   and didn't sell as many records as the Beatles, Stones, Who etc. Good god give him a lifetime achievement award as well
The honours system is a load of codswallop and should be abolished, it has become a joke giving awards to him and the likes of.

Ah, now The Beatles Cleggy.

They received their MBE's only two years+ since making it big in 1962/63.  I loved them, especially Paul, so I never begrudged each of them their award, which of course John Lennon famously sent back to the Palace!

http://www.thebeatles.com/#/article/Honoured_with_an_MBE

If the establishment want to reward someone for "services rendered" to the country, so be it.  Let's face it the British Empire no longer exists, but the establishment still stick to this out of date practice.  If that pleases them, so be it.  There are many other problems for us, the people, to worry about.

The Beatles (the original Boy Band) were only together for 10 years, yet McCartney despite multiple drugs convictions got an MBE and a Knighthood for doing his job and struts around at every national event like he's some sort of elder statesman...... 

The Beatles were a GROUP that could play instruments, got together, slogged it round the clubs in England and Germany learning their craft. Lennon and McCartney are possibly the worlds greatest songwriters. They set the standard for others to try and emulate and failed with a possible few exceptions.

Boy Band  MY ARSE

They were not talentless pretty boys put together by some impresario with a market machine 

Whether or not they should receive awards is up for disscussion 

No need to bring your arse into it Cleggy!! 

Of course they were a Boy Band!! They were 4 young boys who got together and formed a band which quite probably wouldn't have been half as successful without the guidance of Brian Epstein and George Martin!    Things worked a little differently all those years ago that's all..... 

With the hindsight of history, The Beatles were a pretty over rated Boy Band as well!!!!!!!!   

[Michael2.6]

we seem to be moving away from the issue of Gary Barlow, and his O.B.E,,,,,,,,Oh bloody ell it should stand for!
Leave the beatles alone, they will go down in history and will never be forgot! ooops i moving away from the issue as well!
final word, i think these medals should be abolished, so TAKE THAT!

[cleggy]

 Manufactured Boy Bands of today are not worthy enough to piss in the same toilet as the Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces ETC ETC. Groups with musical talent that grew organically.
The Beatles had paid their dues and were popular before Epstein and Martin, and so were the Stones before Oldham

Overated boy Band MY ARSE, has your hearing got a malfunction , and things didn't work differently then remember the Monkeys the first plastic manufactured group singing Neil Diamond songs or was it the backing singers and studio musicians


Take That have performed together for 12 years, who will remember then in another 40 let alone them still performing like the Stones

As for awards they are what you get when you cross a Bulldog with a Shitzu

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Manufactured Boy Bands of today are not worthy enough to piss in the same toilet as the Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces ETC ETC. Groups with musical talent that grew organically.
The Beatles had paid their dues and were popular before Epstein and Martin, and so were the Stones before Oldham

Overated boy Band MY ARSE, has your hearing got a malfunction , and things didn't work differently then remember the Monkeys the first plastic manufactured group singing Neil Diamond songs or was it the backing singers and studio musicians


Take That have performed together for 12 years, who will remember then in another 40 let alone them still performing like the Stones

As for awards they are what you get when you cross a Bulldog with a Shitzu

I agree with you Cleggy on that one for sure!!

Those groups earned their stripes with hard graft, sleeping in stinky vans and hostels, with terrible food. They grafted for their fame, and their very real talent shone through

[Sir Tigger KC]

Manufactured Boy Bands of today are not worthy enough to piss in the same toilet as the Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces ETC ETC. Groups with musical talent that grew organically.
The Beatles had paid their dues and were popular before Epstein and Martin, and so were the Stones before Oldham

Overated boy Band MY ARSE, has your hearing got a malfunction , and things didn't work differently then remember the Monkeys the first plastic manufactured group singing Neil Diamond songs or was it the backing singers and studio musicians


Take That have performed together for 12 years, who will remember then in another 40 let alone them still performing like the Stones

As for awards they are what you get when you cross a Bulldog with a Shitzu

I hope that today's acts will have the sense to retire gracefully and not try to desperately hang on to their youth like these ridiculous old rockers.... 

[Michael2.6]

no one has mentioned Rod stewart, another old rocker, but still going strong! 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Manufactured Boy Bands of today are not worthy enough to piss in the same toilet as the Beatles, Stones, Who, Small Faces ETC ETC. Groups with musical talent that grew organically.
The Beatles had paid their dues and were popular before Epstein and Martin, and so were the Stones before Oldham

Overated boy Band MY ARSE, has your hearing got a malfunction , and things didn't work differently then remember the Monkeys the first plastic manufactured group singing Neil Diamond songs or was it the backing singers and studio musicians


Take That have performed together for 12 years, who will remember then in another 40 let alone them still performing like the Stones

As for awards they are what you get when you cross a Bulldog with a Shitzu

I hope that today's acts will have the sense to retire gracefully and not try to desperately hang on to their youth like these ridiculous old rockers.... 

Once a Rocker, always a Rocker to the grave..........and probably beyond

I do sometimes shudder when Paul McCartney tries hard to be a Beatle again ( he was never a true rocker; John Lennon filled that slot R.I.P.) but the stones can still give it some

[Lizzie_Zoom]

no one has mentioned Rod stewart, another old rocker, but still going strong! 

Yes, and still very good

[Sir Tigger KC]

no one has mentioned Rod stewart, another old rocker, but still going strong! 

Just as ridiculous!!    Along with The Knights of the Realm  McCartney and John ......