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F1 - a possible change to the results ???
« on: 28 November 2012, 22:55:17 »
Interesting read ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20531638

I wonder if they have the cojones to actually take it off him ......

:)
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Re: F1 - a possible change to the results ???
« Reply #1 on: 28 November 2012, 23:02:25 »
Saw the footage several times on Sunday and Ferrari were adamant that it was oil flags at the time ::)

No way to win the championship though :-X
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Re: F1 - a possible change to the results ???
« Reply #2 on: 28 November 2012, 23:08:54 »
It's Ferrari what do you expect ???
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Re: F1 - a possible change to the results ???
« Reply #3 on: 28 November 2012, 23:10:47 »
They could save a lot of petrol if they just let the lawyers decide the result without bothering to run the race. ::)
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Re: F1 - a possible change to the results ???
« Reply #4 on: 29 November 2012, 07:57:16 »
Quote from: Lazydocker on 28 November 2012, 23:02:25
Saw the footage several times on Sunday and Ferrari were adamant that it was oil flags at the time ::)

No way to win the championship though :-X

That link shows a different overtake, not Kobi. However looks like green at the time of overtaking?
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Re: F1 - a possible change to the results ???
« Reply #5 on: 29 November 2012, 09:35:48 »
At the time he overtakes Vergne there are definitely 3 yellow flashing warning signs with the yellow flag indicator on his steering wheel after he passes the first one. Just after the overtake he passes a green light on his left and the lights go out on his steering wheel, only now is it OK to overtake.
The argument is that a marshall on the left just before the Johnnie Walker bridge is waving a green flag (although I can't see it) and that flag takes precedence over the track side lights and as Vettel passed Vergne after the bridge then this is a legal move.

I doubt that the FIA will do anything, they have let Red Bull i.e Adrian Newey bend the rules for the last 3 seasons and if the roles were reversed then they certainly wouldn't punish Ferrari.

Just as an aside, the thing I don't understand is that an illegal car can run until the irregularities are discovered by the FIA and the culprit must remove the offending parts, after a protracted argument. Why is there no punishment for the time the car was running illegally and race results removed?
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Re: F1 - a possible change to the results ???
« Reply #6 on: 29 November 2012, 09:37:07 »
Difficult one IMO. Iirc Vetal did wait for a green after a yellow. He then overtook Bashi who seemed to move over for Seb. :-\

The flags then turned yellow again at the next marshal station. Too late. No?


They should let it go IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: 29 November 2012, 10:11:16 »
The overtake that is in question is the Torro Rosso of Vergne

The ones againg Pic and Kobayashi are legal
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Re: F1 - a possible change to the results ???
« Reply #8 on: 29 November 2012, 12:04:02 »
Quote from: Entwood on 28 November 2012, 22:55:17
Interesting read ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20531638

I wonder if they have the cojones to actually take it off him ......

:)

Seemingly not... ;)  http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104644   :y
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