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Rog

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I don't believe it . . . . .
« on: 29 November 2012, 14:52:52 »

This is not a request for help, just a sob story  :'(

The story so far . .

2011 dumped my 52 V6 CDX Estate at 180k. Just getting old and tatty

Bought, 02 V6 CDX Estate with 60k.

Few weeks ago, headgasket went, coolling system full of oil. Due to a few dents etc decided to scrap it rather than pay a grand or so to get it fixed.

Bought, 2000 2.5 Elite Estate with 84k in decent nick

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109081.msg1365372#msg1365372

Then after a few weeks . . . sudden small water leak . . . turned out to be . . . bleedin head gasket again !

This time I'm coughing up. I don't do my own work. It's gonna cost the same as I paid for the car, but I don't see cars as investments, I see them as utilitarian tools. I do about 20k a year, not vast mileage but a fair amount.

Car in garage right now where they are waiting for delivery of errrrr "Stretch Bolts"? or something for the cylinder head. My Mrs old 940 Volvo is getting a few miles put on it by me  ::)

Question: Why don't they make new Omega Estates ?  ??? There really isn't anything around today that is as huge inside. >:(



« Last Edit: 29 November 2012, 14:59:12 by Rog »
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Re: I don't believe it . . . . .
« Reply #1 on: 29 November 2012, 15:02:31 »

This is not a request for help, just a sob story  :'(

The story so far . .

2011 dumped my 52 V6 CDX Estate at 180k. Just getting old and tatty

Bought, 02 V6 CDX Estate with 60k.

Few weeks ago, headgasket went, coolling system full of oil. Due to a few dents etc decided to scrap it rather than pay a grand or so to get it fixed.

Bought, 2000 2.5 Elite Estate with 84k in decent nick

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109081.msg1365372#msg1365372

Then after a few weeks . . . sudden small water leak . . . turned out to be . . . bleedin head gasket again !

This time I'm coughing up. I don't do my own work. It's gonna cost the same as I paid for the car, but I don't see cars as investments, I see them as utilitarian tools. I do about 20k a year, not vast mileage but a fair amount.

Car in garage right now where they are waiting for delivery of errrrr "Stretch Bolts"? or something for the cylinder head. My Mrs old 940 Volvo is getting a few miles put on it by me  ::)

Question: Why don't they make new Omega Estates ?  ??? There really isn't anything around today that is as huge inside. >:(

Thats not a head gasket failure, thats an oil cooler failed. Sorry to year you scrapped a 60k car for a £100 fix  :'(
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Re: I don't believe it . . . . .
« Reply #2 on: 29 November 2012, 15:10:35 »



Thats not a head gasket failure, thats an oil cooler failed. Sorry to year you scrapped a 60k car for a £100 fix  :'(

Well, the guy at the garage did say that it could be that, but also that it may not be that. I'm not mechanical so I don't know, but I do tend to trust him. The AA guy who got the car home also suggested that it could be terminal. Anyway all done now, it's in the great scrapyard in the sky.
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Re: I don't believe it . . . . .
« Reply #3 on: 29 November 2012, 15:16:27 »

This is not a request for help, just a sob story  :'(

The story so far . .

2011 dumped my 52 V6 CDX Estate at 180k. Just getting old and tatty

Bought, 02 V6 CDX Estate with 60k.

Few weeks ago, headgasket went, coolling system full of oil. Due to a few dents etc decided to scrap it rather than pay a grand or so to get it fixed.

Bought, 2000 2.5 Elite Estate with 84k in decent nick

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109081.msg1365372#msg1365372

Then after a few weeks . . . sudden small water leak . . . turned out to be . . . bleedin head gasket again !

This time I'm coughing up. I don't do my own work. It's gonna cost the same as I paid for the car, but I don't see cars as investments, I see them as utilitarian tools. I do about 20k a year, not vast mileage but a fair amount.

Car in garage right now where they are waiting for delivery of errrrr "Stretch Bolts"? or something for the cylinder head. My Mrs old 940 Volvo is getting a few miles put on it by me  ::)

Question: Why don't they make new Omega Estates ?  ??? There really isn't anything around today that is as huge inside. >:(


Class E Mercedes Estates seem large to me ;)
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Re: I don't believe it . . . . .
« Reply #4 on: 29 November 2012, 15:30:25 »


Question: Why don't they make new Omega Estates ?  ??? There really isn't anything around today that is as huge inside. >:(


Class E Mercedes Estates seem large to me ;)

Indeed they are, however rear load carrying capacity of most modern estates have been compromised by design features like sloping rear hatch doors and bodywork that gets narrower near the roof, and quite a few other things. All a case of style over substance.

There was an older E Class that was huge, I mean vast, but that was some time ago they are all quite old now.
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Re: I don't believe it . . . . .
« Reply #5 on: 29 November 2012, 15:31:08 »

This is not a request for help, just a sob story  :'(

The story so far . .

2011 dumped my 52 V6 CDX Estate at 180k. Just getting old and tatty

Bought, 02 V6 CDX Estate with 60k.

Few weeks ago, headgasket went, coolling system full of oil. Due to a few dents etc decided to scrap it rather than pay a grand or so to get it fixed.

Bought, 2000 2.5 Elite Estate with 84k in decent nick

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=109081.msg1365372#msg1365372

Then after a few weeks . . . sudden small water leak . . . turned out to be . . . bleedin head gasket again !

This time I'm coughing up. I don't do my own work. It's gonna cost the same as I paid for the car, but I don't see cars as investments, I see them as utilitarian tools. I do about 20k a year, not vast mileage but a fair amount.

Car in garage right now where they are waiting for delivery of errrrr "Stretch Bolts"? or something for the cylinder head. My Mrs old 940 Volvo is getting a few miles put on it by me  ::)

Question: Why don't they make new Omega Estates ?  ??? There really isn't anything around today that is as huge inside. >:(


Class E Mercedes Estates seem large to me ;)

They are,I had an older W124 E class estate and the load bay was huge :y
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« Reply #6 on: 29 November 2012, 17:01:30 »

Bigger than i thought  :o

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« Reply #7 on: 29 November 2012, 17:11:11 »

Its been stated so many times on this forum by various luminaries such as MarkDTM,Darth loo-knee and many others. There has never been a known case of head gasket failure on a 2.6 or 3.2 V6. ;)
I had a 2.6 project earlier this year which had been diagnosed by a garage with head gasket failure. It was restored to good health without a head being removed (oil cooler replaced) and now lives happily with its new owner. :)
H/G failure also uncommon on 2.5 engine.I suspect a garage may be making a nice profit out of you Rog. ;)
In future,ask for advice on the forum before getting diagnosis from a garage.Thats its primary purpose after all. :y
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« Reply #8 on: 29 November 2012, 17:35:52 »

Only ones that seem to have suffered with a head gasket failure are S plate models for some strange reason. Every other car I can ever remember (since I signed up in 2006 I think it was) has been an Oil Cooler failure.
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« Reply #9 on: 29 November 2012, 18:05:19 »

Its been stated so many times on this forum by various luminaries such as MarkDTM,Darth loo-knee and many others. There has never been a known case of head gasket failure on a 2.6 or 3.2 V6. ;)
I had a 2.6 project earlier this year which had been diagnosed by a garage with head gasket failure. It was restored to good health without a head being removed (oil cooler replaced) and now lives happily with its new owner. :)
H/G failure also uncommon on 2.5 engine.I suspect a garage may be making a nice profit out of you Rog. ;)
In future,ask for advice on the forum before getting diagnosis from a garage.Thats its primary purpose after all. :y
Only HG on the V6 are coolant leaks to the outside, esp at back of 1998 3.0l 2/4/6 head...

The garage in this case should be shot  >:(
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Re: I don't believe it . . . . .
« Reply #10 on: 29 November 2012, 18:49:53 »


H/G failure also uncommon on 2.5 engine.I suspect a garage may be making a nice profit out of you Rog. ;)


*Gulp*   :-[    :-[   :-[    :-[

Oh well . . . . .

I'll look on the up-side and think that things should now be pretty good after being stripped down and put together again. And it has been, I was there today and saw it all laid bare.

Trouble is I use a car for business, I just don't have time for lengthy considerations. I see problem, fix it.
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« Reply #11 on: 29 November 2012, 18:52:49 »

Bigger than i thought  :o



Agreed. But . . . . look at the slope on the rear hatch door. Put something big in there and the door won't close, or the glass will get broken. And that's my point.
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« Reply #12 on: 29 November 2012, 19:19:57 »

I hope they changed the oil cooler as well while it was in bits!!


H/G failure also uncommon on 2.5 engine.I suspect a garage may be making a nice profit out of you Rog. ;)


*Gulp*   :-[    :-[   :-[    :-[

Oh well . . . . .

I'll look on the up-side and think that things should now be pretty good after being stripped down and put together again. And it has been, I was there today and saw it all laid bare.

Trouble is I use a car for business, I just don't have time for lengthy considerations. I see problem, fix it.
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Re: I don't believe it . . . . .
« Reply #13 on: 29 November 2012, 20:44:09 »



Thats not a head gasket failure, thats an oil cooler failed. Sorry to year you scrapped a 60k car for a £100 fix  :'(

Well, the guy at the garage did say that it could be that, but also that it may not be that. I'm not mechanical so I don't know, but I do tend to trust him. The AA guy who got the car home also suggested that it could be terminal. Anyway all done now, it's in the great scrapyard in the sky.

Yet another case (to add to the 1,000's) that both the AA and a lot of garages don't now what the frack they are talking about.

Oil in the coolant would have been oil cooler failure, such a shame.  :(
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« Reply #14 on: 29 November 2012, 20:47:28 »



Thats not a head gasket failure, thats an oil cooler failed. Sorry to year you scrapped a 60k car for a £100 fix  :'(

Well, the guy at the garage did say that it could be that, but also that it may not be that. I'm not mechanical so I don't know, but I do tend to trust him. The AA guy who got the car home also suggested that it could be terminal. Anyway all done now, it's in the great scrapyard in the sky.

Yet another case (to add to the 1,000's) that both the AA and a lot of garages don't now what the frack they are talking about.

Oil in the coolant would have been oil cooler failure, such a shame.  :(

If they had a clue they'd be working in a nice warm workshop (or a nice warm development lab). ;D
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